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03-02-2010, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Jock Scot  I had realised where the wedding was taking place, but I had not appreciated that the white tie and full evening dress was worn to weddings over there.  | You'll find, Jock, that evening weddings are quite common in the South. At a number of these weddings, the groom and groomsmen do wear full dress. Male guests often wear dinner jackets.
At daytime weddings over here, it is quite rare for male guests to wear morning dress, although one occasionally will see this, but certainly not in the numbers one would see at weddings in the UK.
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03-02-2010, 08:33 AM
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Thank you Sandy, I knew that you had evening weddings over there(cooler in the evenings, I suppose?), but I had no idea that the white tie and full evening dress was worn. Well, never too old to learn.
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03-02-2010, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Nighthawk I am officiating a wedding in June, and it is black tie formal...All the men will be in coat tails, and I will be the only kilted person there. | Have you considered wearing a robe/ vestments and clerical collar? That would seem (to me) to be most fitting for the officiant at a formal wedding.
I don't think I've ever seen an officiant wearing lay "black tie" attire.
Have the bride and groom specifically asked you to wear highland attire for their wedding? If so, disregard the above and just do as they request...
Cordially,
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03-02-2010, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jock Scot I had realised where the wedding was taking place, but I had not appreciated that the white tie and full evening dress was worn to weddings over there. | Normally it's not. That's why I was asking the advice!  This is a very unusual thing. And the funny thing is, I met with another couple on the same day who are going the exact opposite direction- very casual. The groom doesn't even think he'll be wearing a tie! Different personalities and all...
Anyway, Jock, thank you for the advice. It is as always very helpful I haven't yet gotten my waist coat- I'm my tailors next in line. So I think I may have go with a three button layout. Quote:
Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome Oh, that versitile Argyle!
I think you should be well set for a black tie function with a black Argyle jacket. With a black waistcoat or a tartan waistcoat, you can easily "dress up" a black Argyle jacket to wear to a black tie function.
In both cases I am wearing a black silk cravat, but both looks would also work with a black bow tie, or even a four-in-hand tie.
What kind of sporran and hose were you considering? | I am wearing my red Lewis Rich hose. I would Argyle, but I don't have a pair, and can't afford one at this point in my life. But honestly, I doubt anyone there will know the difference, so I'm not too worried about it. As to my sporran, I have a grey rabbit fur dress sporran that I'm planning to wear. (My wife tried to convince me to get a black one, but photographing black fur is difficult at best, and that was a huge consideration. I wanted a white one, so the grey was a good compromise! Gotta keep the Mrs. happy, too!) Quote:
Originally Posted by MacLowlife Since you won't "MATCH" anyone else, you will probably be fine with whatever you choose. I may be wrong, but since you said coat tails, the men may well be in WHITE tie, in which case, I would suggest that you bring out your full artillery.
On the other hand, you like to be understated, so your usual armament may need a little boost. I like MoR's suggestion of a 3 button waistcoat, though I suspect your tartan one is more likely to be of the 5 button variety. Would you consider a jabot?
If you are the only one in highland dress, most people will have difficulty sorting out what is formal, what is kilt, and what is wedding officiant. Someone will undoubtedly want to know the ecclesiastical significance of the color of your flashes.
Thinking just a little more, and trying to balance the full on formality with your low key role and approach, if you won't go with the jabot, maybe the best idea is a solid black four-in-hand tie and a regular collar. Keep us posted. | My understanding is that jabbots only go with doublets. I have neither, and same as the socks, can't afford to buy one at this point in my life. It would be a good thought, though... Maybe one of these days, I will get one.
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03-02-2010, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by davidlpope Have you considered wearing a robe/ vestments and clerical collar? That would seem (to me) to be most fitting for the officiant at a formal wedding.
I don't think I've ever seen an officiant wearing lay "black tie" attire.
Have the bride and groom specifically asked you to wear highland attire for their wedding? If so, disregard the above and just do as they request...
Cordially,
David | As a matter of fact, the bride said to me that they intentionally sought me out as a kilted minister, and having had several meetings, has decided that she wants nothing else- she just can't imagine me in anything else!
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03-02-2010, 12:24 PM
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I've seen some clergy wear a black Argyll jacket with a collared clergy shirt that looks very nice.
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03-02-2010, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Nighthawk As a matter of fact, the bride said to me that they intentionally sought me out as a kilted minister, and having had several meetings, has decided that she wants nothing else- she just can't imagine me in anything else! | Sounds like you've discovered your niche!
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03-02-2010, 01:38 PM
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If the gorge of your waistcoat is reasonably high, a jabot can look just fine with an argyle (IMHO) and will lend that certain air of je ne sais, what do you call it to your rig. They are really quite easy to make- any bit of lace will do. Someday soon I am going to prepare a tutorial showing how an ordinary piece of lingerie can be converted into a jabot in mere minutes. It can be a true lifesaver.
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03-02-2010, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by davidlpope Sounds like you've discovered your niche! | Yeah, I've been exploiting my niche for a couple years now. Things are starting to pick up lately, though. Quote:
Originally Posted by MacLowlife If the gorge of your waistcoat is reasonably high, a jabot can look just fine with an argyle (IMHO) and will lend that certain air of je ne sais, what do you call it to your rig. They are really quite easy to make- any bit of lace will do. Someday soon I am going to prepare a tutorial showing how an ordinary piece of lingerie can be converted into a jabot in mere minutes. It can be a true lifesaver. | My wife: "Why the HECK are you wearing my red teddy in your jacket?!?!
Me: "It's my new jabbot! What do you think?"
My Wife: ***SMACK!!!***
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03-02-2010, 07:51 PM
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| | | another angle...NOT at Nighthawk's House
Wife: Where have you been
Husband: Ummmm Shopping for kilt accessories?
Wife: at 2 AM?
Husband- They run the store on Edinburgh time, yeah that's it.
Wife: What are these lacy underthings doing in your pocket?
Husband : Oh, that's my new Jabot, um... SEEE?
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