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    celtic confederate jackets worm with kilts

    Hello everyone,i,m reece.i am a sons of confederate veterans lt. Commander who is also scotirish.i need to know the propper way to wear my colonel,s jacket with a kilt. I am clan graham and mcdonald.any help will be much appreciated.thank you all,reece

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    Quote Originally Posted by REECE View Post
    Hello everyone,i,m reece.i am a sons of confederate veterans lt. Commander who is also scotirish.i need to know the propper way to wear my colonel,s jacket with a kilt. I am clan graham and mcdonald.any help will be much appreciated.thank you all,reece
    If you're talking about a Civil War era shelljacket, it's short-waisted enough that there's probably nothing special you need to do, unless you're trying to be historically "period correct" with it. If that's the case then almost everything else has to change to "properly" go with the jacket, from shirt and shoes to the kilt itself: In the mid-1860s the kilt was likely still box-pleated, as knife pleats were just beginning to be accepted as an alternative.

    So, if you can, try to be a bit more specific regarding what you're trying to accomplish.
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    Reece,
    First of all Welcome from Athens, Georgia.I am also a SCV member so double howdy. Secondly, I have not found any "guide" for wearing a shell jacket or other Confederate jacket whilst kilted. I have seen some pictures linked here
    http://www.alexismalcolmkilts.com/1089/1207.html
    That gives you some sort of idea of kinda how it looks. I have a Confederate Memorial tartan kilt, and honestly I did not like the way it looked when I put my shell jacket on. Maybe it was the rougher wool of the jacket or the slight variation of colors or something but it just didn't look correct on me. Some people here that know more than I could probably do a better job on how to coordinate the jacket.
    Anyways Welcome to the Rabble!
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    from Rowlett, Texas.

    Good luck with your query.
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    As others have noted, there really isn't a historical precedent for wearing Highland attire with the uniform of the Confederate forces; we do know of some antebellum Southern militia units in Charleston and New Orleans that are believed to have been outfitted in Scottish kit, the primary sources just aren't there.

    T.

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    The proper way to wear it with the kilt is not to. My Scots Confederate ancestors wore army-issue trousers with their jackets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlackerDrummer View Post
    The proper way to wear it with the kilt is not to. My Scots Confederate ancestors wore army-issue trousers with their jackets.
    Well said. My Scots ancestors wore their "Army Blue" with no ethnic garb, save copies of Burns that was carried with them.

    A proud descendant of Iowa-Scots Mudsills,

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlackerDrummer View Post
    The proper way to wear it with the kilt is not to. My Scots Confederate ancestors wore army-issue trousers with their jackets.
    Quote Originally Posted by cajunscot View Post
    Well said. My Scots ancestors wore their "Army Blue" with no ethnic garb, save copies of Burns that was carried with them.

    A proud descendant of Iowa-Scots Mudsills,

    Todd
    I don't know Recee's intentions, but there are more than a few compatriots in the SCV who wear the kilt (usually Confederate Memorial tartan, but not always), with a shell jacket to the formal ball held at SCV gatherings (these are NOT a reenactment/living history event). If that be the case, then there is nothing wrong with wearing it with CSA shell jacket (officers or enlisted pattern).

    So let's not get too bent about historical accuracy until we find out the gentleman's intentions.

    And Reece,


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    Quote Originally Posted by BoldHighlander View Post
    I don't know Recee's intentions, but there are more than a few compatriots in the SCV who wear the kilt (usually Confederate Memorial tartan, but not always), with shell jacket to the formal ball held at SCV gatherings (these are NOT a reenactment/living history event). If that be the case, then there is nothing wrong with wearing it with CSA uniform jacket.

    So let's not get to bent about historical accuracy until we find out the gentleman's intentions.

    And Reece,


    ...from the far nw corner of Washington state & a proud descendant of Kentucky Scots of John Hunt Morgan's Raiders & SW Virginia Ulster-Scots of the Stonewall Brigade!

    (Member Pvt E F Arthur Camp #1783 SCV)
    Terry:

    If I gave the impression of "getting bent" about historical accuracy, then my apologies. As a member of the SUV for 15 years, I have seen such attire among our SCV brothers, and now among our own ranks, given our own "Federal Memorial Tartan".

    Personally, I've never been much for mixing reenactment kit with my mufti, but that was mostly due to the fact that I wore the former on a regular basis as a living history ranger with NPS, and I didn't want to wear it on my lieu days.

    T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunscot View Post
    Terry:

    If I gave the impression of "getting bent" about historical accuracy, then my apologies. As a member of the SUV for 15 years, I have seen such attire among our SCV brothers, and now among our own ranks, given our own "Federal Memorial Tartan".

    Personally, I've never been much for mixing reenactment kit with my mufti, but that was mostly due to the fact that I wore the former on a regular basis as a living history ranger with NPS, and I didn't want to wear it on my lieu days.

    T.

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    No harm, no foul Todd!


    I didn't know there was a Federal Memorial Tartan (heading over to google)...

    Actually, I'm with you on the mixing of kit, but that's a whole 'nother story (thread?)

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