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06-09-2010, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mael Coluim  | Thanks! Much obliged.
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06-09-2010, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by L. Ramsay I'd consider that move too, I have ancestors who fought for the CSA. And I myself reenact. But I think the operative part here is memorial, you don't have to be closely related to it in order to commemorate it.
Do you know anything of the history for this tartan? I'd love to know the circumstances of its origin. | http://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/tar...s.aspx?ref=732
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06-09-2010, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by L. Ramsay | That's quite intriguing. |
06-09-2010, 10:08 PM
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As a Canadian... lol nvm 
Reenacting I can see using either sides tartan, other wise it seems a little nuts. I'm more of the opinion of if it happened hundreds of years ago it's about time we got over it. I don't hold a grudge against American's for previously attempting to conquer us and I don't see why I should against British either.
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06-09-2010, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by davidlpope I've always struggled to see the rational nexus between the attire of the Scottish Highlands and the American Civil War.
David | Read Celeste Ray's great book "Highland Heritage", that will help explain the nexus of Highlandism and southern traditions, although rationality doesn't really play a big part...
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06-09-2010, 10:27 PM
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| | Well, I wouldn’t begrudge anyone wearing the Confederate Memorial tartan. My ancestor Samuel Taylor served Bobby Lee as a spy, not as soldier. With the Sesquicentennial coming up and living in the midst of so many battlefields, I am planning kilted tours of them as the dates of the battles come up. I have decided to get Rocky to make me a semi-trad in his American heritage to commemorate the sacrifice of all who fought, especially those of Scottish ancestry on both sides. |
06-09-2010, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Zardoz Read Celeste Ray's great book "Highland Heritage", that will help explain the nexus of Highlandism and southern traditions, although rationality doesn't really play a big part... | Here's a link of a excerpt from it. Canjunscot had referenced it also in another thread. I got my copy this week. |
06-09-2010, 11:42 PM
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I also appreciate the sacrifice any soldier makes. Unless it goes directly against what they are taught as soldier they have to follow orders. But surely we are remembering it as a tragedy, it was a stupid war fought over pride and an unwillingness to change. One could say that some wars are necessary, but no one in their right mind would say that wars are good. It's about time people realize we are in this world together and not against each other. We have enough problems as it is.
That being said I history shouldn't be forgotten, there are many important things we can learn from history. I just think a lot of the hatred and bitterness should be avoided at all costs.
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06-10-2010, 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by cajunscot I seem to remember this tartan being designed for a member of the SCV. | A number of my SCV brothers wear this tartan in kilt form. I've thought about it myself, but because I have so many family connections to the Highlands & Islands, I've already got too many tartans to choose from 
Nine of my Scobee's rode under the banner of John Hunt Morgan, while 3 of my Moore's served with the mighty Stonewall Brigade (one was later with Early when he burned Chambersburg). Another three of my kin rode with Quantrill out of Missouri.
I had a 3rd great-grandfather Scobee who was a Union officer in Missouri who fought guerrillas (ironic, no?). In one engagement the lead was flying so heavy it was reported the ears of his horse was shot off! 
Being raised by Southerners, my sympathies naturally lie with the reb's, however I am proud of all of my ancestors, Blue or Gray, for they fought for what they believed in, for their own reasons, and I find no fault in that.
As someone else said, there is no reason why you can't wear the Confederate Memorial tartan, just remember what (& whom) it stands for, and honour the memory of that terrible struggle.
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