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    Dirk?

    Okay, so as I'm getting more and more in to the kilt, and my Scottish ancestry, I'm slowly building what could be a nice semi-formal kilt outfit. I have my eyes on a new sporran, sgain, argyle jacet and all. But, I have a question. The dirk, I mean it looks cool, but I want to look traditional yet still individual, if that even makes any sense. So, I would like to add a dirk for its sleek and sexy looks, but if it dosen't fit the look I want then I can deal with out it.

    For reference this is about what I'm going for, but in black. Dressy, but still versitile in use.


    Thanks,
    Nick.

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    Re: Dirk?

    I think a link is missing to show what you are after.

    Won't you need to be careful where you wear such a thing?

    Anne the Pleater

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    Re: Dirk?

    I don't know that I've seen anyone wear a dirk with semi-formal attire... after the recent thread about the difficulties with interpreting dress codes, what do you mean by semi-formal?

    A dress dirk can look good with a formal outfit, though it is still relatively uncommon. By formal, I mean white tie or very spiffed up black tie.

    Very occasionally (twice), I've seen someone wearing a more rustic dirk with smart daywear. The problem with casual situations and dirks is that it is more difficult to justify a large blade to the police than it would be at a special, formal event. Check your local laws there...
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    Re: Dirk?

    Semi-formal? I am unsure what that is in regards to Highland dress. I sometimes (when the mood strikes me) wear a dirk with Highland evening (formal occassions) attire - complete with the obvious dirk belt. I like seeing the dirk worn with close-fitting doublets or the regulation doublet. And the dirk belt may be worn over the waistcoat.

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    Re: Dirk?

    Thanks guys! The advice was great I figured it wouldn't "go," with the look
    well here is, hopefully, is the link of what I hope to build as an outfit.
    http://osc.thescotlandkiltcompany.co...llscottish.jpg

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    Re: Dirk?

    Unless you get an antique dirk or a very high quality modern one, it will not look sleek and sexy, it will unfortunately look cheap.

    Not a look that I would want to cultivate.

    Maybe the dirk would look best hanging up on your wall.

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    Re: Dirk?

    True, but, that does bring up another very relevent point about my situation. I'm a full time college student, who is very strapped for cash. So, how can I find a place to get a jacket, vest, sgain etc. with out blowing up my budget? Some of the E-bay UK stores in Scotland seem to be sort of the price range I'm looking for, but I don't want to fall in the same trap I did when I first started playing bagpipes. I bought cheap, and had to deal with poor quality until I could afford McCallum. Any advice on that particular problem?

    Thanks again,
    Nick.

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    Re: Dirk?

    Quote Originally Posted by ANP3 View Post
    Thanks guys! The advice was great I figured it wouldn't "go," with the look
    well here is, hopefully, is the link of what I hope to build as an outfit.
    http://osc.thescotlandkiltcompany.co...llscottish.jpg
    We all accept, I think, that what you wear and how you wear it, is down to the individual. However your picture example raises the eyebrows already for many, by wearing a belt with a waistcoat and wearing a tartan tie and adding a dirk to that particular look will just cause the eyebrows to go into orbit!
    "Life is hard---------it is even harder if you are stupid."

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    Re: Dirk?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    We all accept, I think, that what you wear and how you wear it, is down to the individual. However your picture example raises the eyebrows already for many, by wearing a belt with a waistcoat and wearing a tartan tie and adding a dirk to that particular look will just cause the eyebrows to go into orbit!
    Interesting. I thought that was a rather good example of a kilted equivelent of a nice suit. I didn't like the tie all that much but, other than that I thought this was a sterling example of highland dress. Thank you for that, I don't want to look like I don't know what I'm doing when I'm wearing a kilt, my heratige is far to important to me to not do it properly. Once again thanks!

    Nick.

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    Re: Dirk?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    We all accept, I think, that what you wear and how you wear it, is down to the individual. However your picture example raises the eyebrows already for many, by wearing a belt with a waistcoat and wearing a tartan tie and adding a dirk to that particular look will just cause the eyebrows to go into orbit!
    Agreed.

    With so many of the public at large already (wrongly) seeing highland dress as a costume, I personally like to avoid anything that could contribute to that conception. A modern dirk, if you've never worn one, can actually be quite a pain to have attached to you; correctly produced period correct dirks are usually MUCH lighter than modern ones, unless they have brass handles.

    So my own view is to leave my dirk at home unless I A. Might have a use for it (a bit scary to think about), or B. Am in historical costume.

    When I see someone wearing a dirk outside of those contexts, unless it's a spectacular piece of craftsmanship (which commercially mass produced dirks are not), my first thought tends to be "Compensation".
    Quote Originally Posted by piperdbh View Post
    ...then the store manager would try to throw us out, and when RR and tyger and various others tried to stare him down with The Look he'd accuse us of voodoo or something and we'd wind up in the clink or on Dr. Phil.

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