Help please ancient vs modern

[remr5]

Hello, I'm new to this forum and I'm seeking help. I want to purchase a kilt with the Pennsylvania District Tartan as registered with the S.T.A.

The kilt will be 15 oz from DC Dalgleish. What I have not been able to do so far is compare pics from that mill of ancient vs. modern colors. So the big $5 question is, does anyone have a kilt with fabric from DC Dalgleish with ancient colors? If you can you post or send me some pics?

I have emailed USA kilts and received some pics but they do not specify ancient or modern. I don't want to wear out Rocky with a hundred e-mails as I did not place my order yet.

Thank you

[Hothir Ethelnor]

The pictures on the STA website show the tartan woven in ancient colours but since Dalgliesh is doing a custom run for you you can send your own colour palette for them to match.

I find the palette used in a recent tartan run that I coordinated to be extremely nice.

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...06/index5.html

I could send you a swatch of cloth that Dalgliesh could match. You will need to find a suitable sample for the yellow yarns as the Clanranald tartan I had woven does not have yellow.

BTW Ancient colours are light and "pastelly" they are supposed to look faded.

Modern colours are deep and dark with a scarlet red and a bright yellow.

[xman]

I have a swatch of Hunting MacLean from them and feel that their ancient colour palate is very good indeed.
You can see it in the bottom left corner of this picture.



I think you would be pleased to request it of them.

[remr5]

Thank you everyone for your pics and info. It helped a lot.

[Downunder Kilt]

Xman I hope you mean MacLaren on the left side, otherwise I am wearing the wrong tartan

[xman]

Xman I hope you mean MacLaren on the left side, otherwise I am wearing the wrong tartan

heh, ... oops.

[figheadair]

You should see the Pennsylvania in Wilsons of Bannockburn's (WoB) shades. Oh so very nice. I wove Bill Johnstone a kilt in it. Wonder what happened to that when he died?

[OC Richard]

Blue & green tartans do indeed have a pastel-like effect when rendered in "ancient" colours: blue remains blue but lighter, green remains green but lighter.

What I don't like about "ancient" colours in general is what happens to red: rather than becoming a lighter shade of red, the hue itself shifts from red to orange.

It's one of the reasons that I like red tartans rendered in "reproduction" or "weathered" colours (seen in the lower right above), the red is less saturated but remains red.

A similar shift in hue happens with "muted" colours: red would become a less saturated red, one would think, but rather the hue shifts to claret (more purple present) while remaining vivid.

[Tobus]

What I don't like about "ancient" colours in general is what happens to red: rather than becoming a lighter shade of red, the hue itself shifts from red to orange.

I'm just guessing here, but I would imagine that this is done on purpose because people probably prefer the red to go to orange rather than pink.

[BoldHighlander]

What I don't like about "ancient" colours in general is what happens to red: rather than becoming a lighter shade of red, the hue itself shifts from red to orange.

I'm just guessing here, but I would imagine that this is done on purpose because people probably prefer the red to go to orange rather than pink.

Funny thing that....I was never a big fan of "ancient" red kilts, because of the reasons cited, yet when I had the choice of MacDonell of Keppoch in "modern" vs "ancient" I chose the ancient colours as (to my eye) it was a better looking colour scheme.
Now I love it....and I've received nothing but compliments (i.e. "what a beautiful tartan") from those I run into while wearing it.

I'd still like to (someday) get a couple of Keppoch kilts made in both the "reproduction" & "WoB" colours though