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    Hose color: bottle vs. tartan green

    Hi all....just wanted to know if anyone out there can tell me the difference between bottle green and tartan green? I'm looking for hose that have a dark green color, as my kilt is very dark green. I looked at several sites that show tartan green and it looks to be darker than bottle. Then I look at other sites and it looks lighter. Will the real color step forward?

    Anyway, if you can give me some insight, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!

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    I have two different bottle greens, each with its own character.

    The semi-ubiquitous Gaelic Themes bottle green are on the dark side, a very nice shade that can complement almost any green. Find these at USAK, Celtic Croft, many of our advertisers. Below, with a rather dark Stillwater. This may be what you're seeking.



    The Lewis hose are a bit brighter. It's a very nice shade, too; but slightly more assertive. It goes very well with this sweater, or a green polo shirt that I like. These two kilts are also slightly different reds so the color balance is OK on my screen.

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    Different vendors may vary, but in my experiance Bottle Green is always a pretty dark blue-grey green tone, like a wine 'bottle', where Tartan Green, sometimes Loden or Forest, is lighter.

    This lewis hose color chart shows them pretty well.

    http://giftshop.scottishtartans.org/hose_lewis.htm
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    Well I must confess, it's the first time I've ever photographed mee socks at someone else's request but there y' go.

    My Green socks by sellers description (L to R).

    1. Bottle Green (Gaelic Themes). 2. Tartan Green (Lochcarron). 3. Loden Green (House of Cheviot). 4. Forest Green (W. Brewin & Co). 5. Lovat Green (W. Brewin & Co.).

    I reckon the Tartan (2) is a shade darker that the Bottle (1) but as far as telling from a passing bus... No real difference. Mind I suppose it depends who you buy 'em from.



    I hope it's clear on your monitor.
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    I find that "tartan green" and "bottle green" are used pretty much interchangably in the industry to simply mean a darker green. I suspect the subtle difference between the two pictured in the above post has more to do with the fact that the hose were made by different manufacturers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zardoz View Post
    Different vendors may vary, but in my experiance Bottle Green is always a pretty dark blue-grey green tone, like a wine 'bottle', where Tartan Green, sometimes Loden or Forest, is lighter.

    This lewis hose color chart shows them pretty well.

    http://giftshop.scottishtartans.org/hose_lewis.htm
    We call our dark green "bottle green" because a) when we first began carrying the Lewis hose, that's what the color was identified as in the inventory, and b) we believe most of our customers are more familiar with that term than "tartan green."

    However, these days that color is identified as "tartan green" when we order. The color hasn't changed any. Just the name.

    So see my above post about those two terms being used interchangably.
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    I can't say that I have ever heard of "tartan green".

    I have an admission to make! When I first read the original post, I thought to myself; "....now is that ancient, weathered or modern tartan green?"---------I think I need to go out more------a lot more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome View Post
    We call our dark green "bottle green" because a) when we first began carrying the Lewis hose, that's what the color was identified as in the inventory, and b) we believe most of our customers are more familiar with that term than "tartan green."

    However, these days that color is identified as "tartan green" when we order. The color hasn't changed any. Just the name.

    So see my above post about those two terms being used interchangably.
    Matt, I see what you mean, I guess my confusion came from having bought some "tartan green" hose that where lighter shade than some "bottle" ones I already had. Now that I've looked at my extensive green hose selection, it looks like I have at least 3 'shades' of bottle green from different manufacturers.
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    My new St Kilda tweed kilt jacket had a tag which identified its colour as "tartan green". I suppose it means a green similar to the green shade used in "Modern" tartans. However, that's not the colour the jacket actually is: rather the jacket is a muted bluish green, not that far from Lovat Blue.

    To me, "bottle green" would be a dark blue-green like old bottles, but the kilt hose I have, which were labelled "bottle green", are a dark true green which Americans would probably call "forest green". In fact, these so-called "bottle green" hose are a shade very much like the green in "Modern" tartans.

    Then there's "Archer Green" as the Army calls it, the extremely dark green that Army Scottish doublets are made in. "Archer Green" and British Racing Green are similar to what Americans might call "forest green".

    I guess the bottom line is, you have to actually see the hose or jacket or whatever, because these various terms are not used with any consistency.

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    OC,

    I'll definitely agree with your last statement. No consistency!

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