X Marks Partners - (Go to the Partners Dedicated Forums)


Traditionally Made Kilts and How To Wear Them. This forum sub-section is for those interested in learning about and discussing Traditionally made kilts and to discuss and see examples of how kilts can be worn to emulate a traditional style or fashion

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #11  
Old 03-08-2010, 03:42 PM
Geoff Withnell's Avatar  
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Washington DC
Posts: 773
Quote:
Originally Posted by thescot View Post
I mentioned in another thread that, like Redshanks, I don't care for the weight of most pewter badges. I find that they tend to pull the left-hand side of my bonnet down; I even retired my oldest USMC badge for the same reason. It looks really good, but it weighs about a 1/2 pound and pulls the bonnet down.



I wear thinner, lighter silver padges almost exclusively now, and I think you'll like them if you can find some to your liking.
I had exactly the same problem with (as it occurs) exactly the same badge. I found if I cut a thin stiff piece of plastic (such as detergent bottles are often made from) to fit inside the bonnet piierced by the pins of the badge, the plastic would hold the shape, and the weight ceased to be an issue.

Semper Fi!

Geoff Withnell
__________________
Geoff Withnell

"My comrades, they did never yield, for courage knows no bounds."
No longer subject to reveille US Marine.
  #12  
Old 03-08-2010, 05:08 PM
creagdhubh's Avatar  
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio (Originally from St. Louis, Missouri)
Posts: 2,642
Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Withnell View Post
I had exactly the same problem with (as it occurs) exactly the same badge. I found if I cut a thin stiff piece of plastic (such as detergent bottles are often made from) to fit inside the bonnet piierced by the pins of the badge, the plastic would hold the shape, and the weight ceased to be an issue.

Semper Fi!

Geoff Withnell
Semper Fi!!!

-Sgt Kyle Andrew Macpherson, USMC
__________________
Caol Anndra Ghobhain Mac a' Phearsain
Kyle Andrew Smith Macpherson
www.clan-macpherson.org
www.clanchattan.org.uk
  #13  
Old 03-08-2010, 10:35 PM
BoldHighlander's Avatar  
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Far NW Corner of Washington State, USA (48° 45' 51.5808" N / -122° 30' 36.6228" W)
Posts: 5,656
Quote:
Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome View Post
It seems like it has come up a few times recently on the forum that people are looking for a lighter, thinner badge than the clunky pewter ones generally available.

I'll just point out that there is another option, if you don't mind paying a bit more for quality.

Our hand cast sterling silver badges are much thinner and lighter than the typical pewter badge.
http://giftshop.scottishtartans.org/silver_badges.htm

I just weighed one on a postal scale and it was .6 oz.
I can't afford one just yet, but this option appeals to me. I do have one question Matt. I'm having some difficulty locating the newly designed badge for the Macdonalds of Keppoch (see design below), does your silversmith have this design?

__________________
T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES
proud descendant of the McReynolds / MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch.
"Ah, here comes the Bold Highlander. No arse in his breeks but too proud to tug his forelock..." Rob Roy (1995)
  #14  
Old 03-09-2010, 12:36 AM
Lachlan09's Avatar
Has not logged in for 1 year
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Muscat, Sultanate of Oman
Posts: 740
They all look pretty posh and well-to-do to me - the huntin' fishin' shootin' set, not your average teuchter !
  #15  
Old 03-09-2010, 01:04 AM
thescot's Avatar  
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Conyers, Georgia
Posts: 3,893
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lachlan09 View Post
They all look pretty posh and well-to-do to me - the huntin' fishin' shootin' set, not your average teuchter !
You may be right, but then--as Jock has pointed out several times-it's probable that most of them inherited much of their outfits and/or have worn them for many years. I doubt there was a lot of money spent on new stuff the week before the photo was taken.
__________________
Jim Killman
Philosopher, Teacher of English and Math, Soldier of Fortune, Bon Vivant, Heart Transplant Recipient, Knight of St. Andrew (among other knighthoods)
Freedom is not free, but the US Marine Corps will pay most of your share.
  #16  
Old 03-09-2010, 01:23 AM
thescot's Avatar  
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Conyers, Georgia
Posts: 3,893
Quote:
Originally Posted by okiwen View Post
I also noted that everyone of them has a can or a walking stick. Even the 15 Yr. old n the back. Look how high up the kilt pins are.

Jim K., the pin you have shown I have as well. The pin part doesn't go through far enough for the clasp on the pack to grasp. Did you have this problem?
I had to push pretty hard to make it work. And I think I may have pinned it to the cockade instead of the wool of the hat one time in order to make it work.

Now I use silver, thinner badges almost exclusively, like this one:



I've given thought to investigating the manufacture of lighter, stamped metal badges like the cap badges of the British military. Take a look at some of the older regimental badges, and you can see some beatiful artistry that doesn't weigh a ton. I wear one like this on a khaki glengarry once in a while because it doesn't look like a regimental badge but does look quite Scottish:


Mine is not so silver looking; it's aged brass in color.
__________________
Jim Killman
Philosopher, Teacher of English and Math, Soldier of Fortune, Bon Vivant, Heart Transplant Recipient, Knight of St. Andrew (among other knighthoods)
Freedom is not free, but the US Marine Corps will pay most of your share.

Last edited by thescot; 03-09-2010 at 08:55 PM.
  #17  
Old 03-09-2010, 05:23 AM
M. A. C. Newsome's Avatar
Owner - New House Highland

Contributing Kilt Historian
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Western NC
Posts: 4,758
Quote:
Originally Posted by BoldHighlander View Post
I can't afford one just yet, but this option appeals to me. I do have one question Matt. I'm having some difficulty locating the newly designed badge for the Macdonalds of Keppoch (see design below), does your silversmith have this design?

No problem. If he doesn't already have it I can show him this picture and that's more than good enough for him to work from.
__________________
Matthew A. C. Newsome, GTS
Governor, Scottish Tartans Authority
Director Emeritus, Scottish Tartans Museum
My own blog & writings on Highland Dress: Albanach.org
  #18  
Old 03-09-2010, 06:09 AM
Has not logged in for 1 year
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Cedar Hill, Texas
Posts: 9
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown View Post
To my practiced eye, all of the gentlemen in the photo originally posted by JSFMJR (Sandy to his pals on XMTS) are wearing Balmoral bonnets-- some with dicing, some without, and all with their tails either tied up, or (possibly) cut off.
Correct me if I am wrong, but when the Balmoral per say is tied up (not the other bonnets), doesn't that suggest they are married? I remember reading that in one of those early 'How to wear and maintain a Kilt' books.

Which to be a bit funny, if they cut the ribbons off, maybe those particular gents decided not to take brides or wanted to remain playboys.
__________________
QdBrown
  #19  
Old 03-09-2010, 07:00 AM
MacMillan of Rathdown's Avatar  
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Staunton, Va
Posts: 4,537
Quote:
Originally Posted by QdBrown View Post
Correct me if I am wrong, but when the Balmoral per say is tied up (not the other bonnets), doesn't that suggest they are married? I remember reading that in one of those early 'How to wear and maintain a Kilt' books.
You've been the victim of another myth invented by those who don't know the facts.

Originally the ribbons were used to adjust the size of the bonnet. Now days they merely "snug it up". As has been pointed out before (by Jock Scot and others) the main reason for tying the ribbons in a bow (or cutting them off) is to prevent them from whipping around in the wind and hitting one (painfully) in the eye.
  #20  
Old 03-09-2010, 07:58 AM
Hothir Ethelnor's Avatar  
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Ohio
Posts: 505
it's a fun myth though...
Closed Thread

Tags
balmorals, cap badge, tams

X Marks Advertisers
For Quality Scottish Made Products at Affordable Prices



Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Balmorals and Glengarrys longhuntr74 How to Accessorize your Kilt 69 04-15-2010 01:29 PM
US Campaign Ribbons ceilidh_gal Kilt Advice 84 10-26-2009 10:47 AM
Kilt Ribbons Harold Cannon How to Accessorize your Kilt 5 07-07-2008 08:46 AM
Help! Tams Zardoz How to Accessorize your Kilt 2 09-27-2006 12:50 PM

» Log in
User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
X Marks Sponsors


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:34 AM.


Copyright 2010 by Steve Ashton
Do not reproduce or re-transmit anything on www.XMarkstheScot.com without the express, written permission of the Original Author or the forum owner, Steve Ashton.
Designed by vB Skin Zone Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2