 | | 
03-11-2010, 11:20 AM
|  | | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Hong Kong (by way of Toronto, Canada)
Posts: 2,212
| | | evolution of the kilt
I came across an interesting visual history of the traditional kilt. If I'm reading it right, it is emphasizing the important influence of the uniforms of Highland regiments on civilian, formalwear kilting. Comments?
__________________
- Justitia et fortitudo invincibilia sunt
- An t'arm breac dearg
| 
03-11-2010, 11:33 AM
|  | | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 2,339
| | Quote: |
If I'm reading it right, it is emphasizing the important influence of the uniforms of Highland regiments on civilian, formalwear kilting. Comments?
| Well, sure, there's no doubt that military uniforms have influenced the kilt. Especially when one considers that for a time the only kilt allowed to be worn was a military one. Not only did the kilted outfit become militarized, it also became Anglicized. Had tartan and kilts never been banned, I imagine what we wear today would look different than it does.
That pictorial history leaves a lot to be desired, though. | 
03-11-2010, 02:41 PM
|  | | | Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Staunton, Va
Posts: 4,537
| | |
This is one of those "chicken and egg" situations-- did civilian attire influence military uniforms, or did military uniforms morph into civilian wear? I think it is very much the case that since uniforms by and large are based on the civilian clothing of the period, that the two modes of dress (civilian Highland attire and Scottish regimental uniforms) really developed more-or-less simultaneously, with civilian attire generally a decade or so in advance of the military.
Had proscription never occurred, it is likely that today's Highland attire would look much as it does-- seeing as how civilian Highland attire (the kilt aside) is really nothing more than slightly modified "ordinary" civilian dress.
| 
03-11-2010, 03:47 PM
|  | | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 2,339
| | Quote: |
I think it is very much the case that since uniforms by and large are based on the civilian clothing of the period
| I don't see that at all.
| 
03-11-2010, 04:13 PM
|  | | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 2,259
| |
You forgot the leine  .
__________________
Gillmore of Clan Morrison
"Long Live the Long Shirts!"- Ryan Ross
| 
03-11-2010, 04:25 PM
|  | Retired Forum Moderator Chairman | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: On the East side of NC
Posts: 4,934
| | |
It would help if you were to reference the source.
Brian
| 
03-11-2010, 04:30 PM
|  | | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Hong Kong (by way of Toronto, Canada)
Posts: 2,212
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick the DSM You forgot the leine  . | I didn't create the picture in the OP but I posted it here because I thought it was interesting...
Here's some leine pics for you
__________________
- Justitia et fortitudo invincibilia sunt
- An t'arm breac dearg
| 
03-11-2010, 04:35 PM
|  | | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: South Carolina
Posts: 1,108
| | | perhaps not as straightforward as a Reese's*
I am not so sure about the math in the illustration, neat as it may be. Is that really how the Great Kilt is worn? I wore mine over the other shoulder. I am not so certain about the sequence of the diced hose giving way to leggings, though I suppose one uniform ran that way. And finally, I prefer a different evolution / variation of the final outfit...
Still, it is a handy graphic.
*(The Reese's peanut butter cup- Chocolate + Peanut Butter = Reese's)
__________________ Some take the high road and some take the low road. Who's in the gutter? MacLowlife | 
03-11-2010, 04:37 PM
|  | | | Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Hong Kong (by way of Toronto, Canada)
Posts: 2,212
| | | source Quote:
Originally Posted by BEEDEE It would help if you were to reference the source.
Brian | Good idea. I found the picture through Google image search and hadn't actually looked at the source page till now. A cursory scan shows a history of the kilt that may have some contentious points in it... http://www.caffrey.no/pages/l4_history_of_the_kilt.htm
__________________
- Justitia et fortitudo invincibilia sunt
- An t'arm breac dearg
| 
03-11-2010, 06:13 PM
|  | | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 2,259
| |
Haha, I was watching Star Trek TOS earlier today!
__________________
Gillmore of Clan Morrison
"Long Live the Long Shirts!"- Ryan Ross
|  | | | X Marks Advertisers |  | For Quality Scottish Made Products at Affordable Prices |  |  | | | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | | |