Trews as traditional Highland dress?

[RadioKen]

I was doing a little research on the subject of trews today and I came across this quote in the Wikipedia article on the subject:

"Traditional trews are actually long hose. These hose came all the way up to the waist and were attached to a linen cloth (NB: These were not trousers). They were fastened at the lower leg, below the knee, by a garter (the precursor to the flashes of the Highland Dress) as can be seen in the painting by David Morier of the Battle of Culloden. It is said in Scottish Tradition Lore that these truibhas were actually the common garment of the 16th to 18th Centuries in the Highlands.[1] It is also a fascinating note that when travelling, in order to avoid getting the trews wet when crossing streams, the Highlander would wear shorter hose, ones that would only reach up to the knee, and wrap his "bed-garments" around his waist, a form of the Great Kilt.[2]" (Bold emphasis mine.)

The reference material for this is something (an article?) called "Notes on Scottish Lore" by James MacDonald Reid published in 2009. Has anyone read this article or know anything about the author? Comments on the veracity of this claim?

~Ken

[Bugbear]

I don't know... That sounds like hosen to me.

I'll be interested in what others have to say.

However, I have seen discussion of tartan trews being worn as traditional Highland attire with some of the formal and short cut jackets, and I think they are worn today. I'm not sure how commen they are, though.

[Nick the DSM]

I don't know... That sounds like hosen to me.

I'll be interested in what others have to say.

However, I have seen discussion of tartan trews being worn as traditional Highland attire with some of the formal and short cut jackets, and I think they are worn today. I'm not sure how commen they are, though.

probably more common on a golf course.


joke^. just laugh people.

[puffer]

probably more common on a golf course.


joke^. just laugh people.

NO OFFENSE MEANT, but WRONG> You are thinking of "the Modern "pant style Trews. The ones he is talkig about are "skin tight" & not only well Documented, but common.

Tis pix is of the "tartan Style"



There is another style., that was VERY common,. It was "woven wool. ( ( natural color) & resembled " crotchless panty hose" WORN UNDER the KILT.

I have a set now being "knit" by a friend of mine, for next winter.

Puffer

[Bugbear]

First, so what is the difference between those, and hosen? They sound almost the same.

And second, I would almost put that in the historical catigory rather than traditional. That was what was confusing me because I think trews with the fishtail back etc are traditional and still worn today.

[Nick the DSM]

NO OFFENSE MEANT, but WRONG> You are thinking of "the Modern "pant style Trews. The ones he is talkig about are "skin tight" & not only well Documented, but common.

Tis pix is of the "tartan Style"



There is another style., that was VERY common,. It was "woven wool. ( ( natural color) & resembled " crotchless panty hose" WORN UNDER the KILT.

I have a set now being "knit" by a friend of mine, for next winter.

Puffer

I know. Thats why I was joking around.

[puffer]

I know. Thats why I was joking around.

Puffer

[RadioKen]

Great images, Puffer, thanks! Looking at the red jacket that the younger fellow is wearing I would put them at some time in the 18th century (though I'm not good enough yet to guess early, middle or late). Do you know if that's right?

Anybody know of a pattern or construction details for something like this? And, Puffer, what about those other, "under-trews" that you're having made up; any pattern or documentation for those? I'd be keen to try to make something up like that for next winter.

Thanks!
~Ken

[wvpiper]

Great images, Puffer, thanks! Looking at the red jacket that the younger fellow is wearing I would put them at some time in the 18th century
~Ken

The images are from RR McIan - http://www.rrmcian.com/pages/index.htm

In one of the books that I've read-maybe the History of the Scottish People, the author states that those who could afford trews wore them.
Take it for what it's worth........one certainly wouldn't want to spend too much time on a horse wearing a kilt, me thinks

[Colonel MacNeal]

As a frequent editor of Wikipedia, I can attest that a lot of garbage gets posted there. I and other legitimate editors spend a lot of time "taking out the garbage". So whenever I consult Wikipedia, I check the current version against previous versions, to see if the current article is vandalized.

Articles I police are:
Order of St John
Knights Hospitaller
Russian Tradition of the Knights Hospitaller
Kilt
Knights Templar (too much fantasy gets inserted)
and various others.

Cheers, ColMac