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    Dress Sporran...what determines a fromal/dress Sporran.

    I am thinking of having a formal or dress sporran made, as I have looked over and over all the Scottish, US, and Canadian Merchants and just seems to me almost all of them look alike. So I would like to design my own, but before I have it made, I wanted it run it by my fellow Scots to see what I have in mind first, is a dress sporran, fits the criteria of something you would wear to a formal affair, i.e. blacktie, like a ball or Burns Night, etc. So please if I am off or you have better suggestion, let me know so I can consider it.

    This is my criteria:

    I would like to have

    - a brown fur, maybe muskrat, beaver, good fur not apt to shed, want brown fur,
    - a cantle must be the cooper Thistle and with matching cooper tassle balls.
    - a brown leather round piece below the cantle that would be round with the MacDonald Clanranald crest embossed in the leather,
    - Motto will look like depicted below, and the sporran would be similar in design as one below.
    - size would be a standard size formal type sporran,
    - inside the sporran would have some leather divided to put change keys, that would be easy to read without taking everything else,
    they will be on the front and back of the sporran inside.
    - rings that are used to connect the soprran belts need to be cooper metal loops.

    Here is the STYLE or basic design I am looking at:



    Style of crest on leather that would be embossed.



    Cantle



    That is it in the nutshell, been thinking of this for a long time. I really would like Racoon, as the fur is long and really a nice brown, look at the photo above with the cooper cantle that is Racoon.

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    Allan Collin MacDonald III
    Grandfather - Clan Donald, MacDonald (Clanranald) /MacBride, Antigonish, NS, 1791
    Grandmother - Clan Chisholm of Strathglass, West River, Antigonish, 1803
    Scottish Roots: Knoidart, Inverness, Scotland, then to Antigonish, Nova Scotia, Canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CollinMacD View Post
    I am thinking of having a formal or dress sporran made, as I have looked over and over all the Scottish, US, and Canadian Merchants and just seems to me almost all of them look alike. So I would like to design my own, but before I have it made, I wanted it run it by my fellow Scots to see what I have in mind first, is a dress sporran, fits the criteria of something you would wear to a formal affair, i.e. blacktie, like a ball or Burns Night, etc. So please if I am off or you have better suggestion, let me know so I can consider it.

    This is my criteria:

    I would like to have

    - a brown fur, maybe muskrat, beaver, good fur not apt to shed, want brown fur,
    - a cantle must be the cooper Thistle and with matching cooper tassle balls.
    - a brown leather round piece below the cantle that would be round with the MacDonald Clanranald crest embossed in the leather,
    - Motto will look like depicted below, and the sporran would be similar in design as one below.
    - size would be a standard size formal type sporran,
    - inside the sporran would have some leather divided to put change keys, that would be easy to read without taking everything else,
    they will be on the front and back of the sporran inside.
    - rings that are used to connect the soprran belts need to be cooper metal loops.

    Here is the STYLE or basic design I am looking at:



    Style of crest on leather that would be embossed.



    Cantle



    That is it in the nutshell, been thinking of this for a long time. I really would like Racoon, as the fur is long and really a nice brown, look at the photo above with the cooper cantle that is Racoon.

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    Iím not a huge fan of copper. I prefer brass with reddish fur like fox and muskrat. But thatís just me.

    I do like the raccoon fur though. Iíve been giving some thought to a full mask raccoon sporran.
    Descendant of the Gillises and MacDonalds of North Morar.

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    I'm afraid I echo fossilhunters view, brass if you can get hold of it will look a lot better, personally I prefer the yellowed look of brass, be it polished or not.

    Otherwise, I would be happy to wear the design you are looking at to a formal affair. I know silver, whether it be real or chrome is the norm and have a white sealskin chrome sporran, I have come to favour brass.

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    Thank you, I will have to consider the brass now....
    Allan Collin MacDonald III
    Grandfather - Clan Donald, MacDonald (Clanranald) /MacBride, Antigonish, NS, 1791
    Grandmother - Clan Chisholm of Strathglass, West River, Antigonish, 1803
    Scottish Roots: Knoidart, Inverness, Scotland, then to Antigonish, Nova Scotia, Canada.

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    https://www.artisansofscotland.com/c...orran-builder/

    https://www.mccalls.co.uk/sporrandesigner

    Here are a few sporran builders. Both have brass and copper cantle options.
    Descendant of the Gillises and MacDonalds of North Morar.

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    Margaret Morrison ltd also had some one offs on Facebook recently, but postage may make this unaffordable .

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    78309E8E-D047-4CBC-86DD-857D1444C262.jpg

    Whipped this up on the artisans builders. $390

    Racoon with copper thistle accents.
    Descendant of the Gillises and MacDonalds of North Morar.

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    In very, very general terms -



    If the sporran is all leather and has a flap-



    It is usually thought of as a day wear sporran.


    If you retain the flap but the front is fur -



    Some will call this Semi-Dress.



    If the sporran is all fur and has a round cantle top - (opens like a coin purse) -



    Then it is usually called a formal sporran.


    Half way between formal and semi-formal are the Hunter style. All leather but with the cantle opening.



    The Black Hunter is my personal go-to for formal wear. I'm just not much of a fur guy. I don't have anything against fur, it's just not me.



    Sporran straps are another thing that confuse some.
    In general a leather strap is day wear -
    A chain in front and leather belt in back is usually more dressy.
    Steve Ashton
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    Besides CLANART, who else make Cantles for Sporran, especially BRASS....
    Allan Collin MacDonald III
    Grandfather - Clan Donald, MacDonald (Clanranald) /MacBride, Antigonish, NS, 1791
    Grandmother - Clan Chisholm of Strathglass, West River, Antigonish, 1803
    Scottish Roots: Knoidart, Inverness, Scotland, then to Antigonish, Nova Scotia, Canada.

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    The raccoons here in Mississippi are not a brown as those in the northern states. Ours are more grey and black tones. Beaver would be my fur of choice. Our groundhogs are lighter furred also.

    If a copper cantle isn't properly coated and sealed, the patina will be green as it ages. I believe brass is the better choice. I like the design you have in mind and think the concept will be worth the effort in the end.

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