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    Help with Antique Sgian Dubh Provenance

    I'm hoping that the learned populace of xmarks can help me with dating and identifying this little treasure. I purchased this for myself on Ebay. I have no indication of it's history other than I got it from an ebay seller in Florida. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

    I liked it from the moment I saw the listing. I had to have it. I wanted it so I could see the assembly detail and make a copy for general use.

    Total Length 6 5/8 inches

    Blade 2 7/8 x 5/8 (includes recess into bolster) marked FLETCHER (best guess)

    No sheath

    Stone 1 x 5/8 (my feeling is that it is a fairly soft amber)

    Silver ferrules appear to have been embossed with a fine
    stamp. No hallmarks visible. Friction and pin fit to handle.
    Very nice carving and patina.

    Unknown wood

    Total weight 40 grams

    I'll include a bunch of pictures and see what I can learn.





    Last edited by O'Neille; 17th December 07 at 06:40 PM.
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    More Pictures of Sgian Dubh

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    Thanks for any insight you may have. O'Neille
    Cowards die many times before their deaths; the valiant never taste of death but once. Of all the wonders I yet have heard, it seems to me most strange that men should fear; seeing that death, a necessary end, will come when it will come. --William Shakespeare, Julius Caesar
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    I don't know about Fletcher, but you got a great deal there. The detail is amazing on the handle.
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    I'm sorry I can't help you my friend - but that is one beautiful treasure you have there!

    Congratulations and good luck.
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    From the flix, I can see why you fell in love with it. Especially if you got it for a good price!

    Nice find.

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    My guess is that it's a Victorian period civilian sgian which some previous owner put to alot of use as a practical knife. That blade is surely quite worn down from its original dimensions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsheal View Post
    My guess is that it's a Victorian period civilian sgian which some previous owner put to alot of use as a practical knife. That blade is surely quite worn down from its original dimensions!
    I agree about the blade wear. I would guess it was a drop point and has taken on this shape with repeated use and sharpening. It still has a decent edge. The wood on the back of the handle also shows some use wear.

    I've done some searching for Fletcher and if not a manufacturer it might have been the owner. I'm only aware of the Glenorchy Fletchers so I might look there a little.

    A gentle rubbing with a terry towel removed some grit and the silver came back to life nicely.

    I also found out that the previous owner sold it for and elderly gentleman who has been collecting knives for 50 years. This was one of the first he acquired.
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    That looks at least 50 years old but has wonderful craftsmanship! I am jealous! What a nice find.

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    I had this on an e-bay watch as well but did not bid.

    I am glad it went into good hands.

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    that's so great! Is there anyway you can get in touch with this knife collector for whom it was being sold?

    You might also want to try and see if there's a cutlery museum or a sgian dubh museum somewhere. I have been trying to find info on German made piccolo and could find next to nothing on the maker (Otto Mönnig). Then as a last resort I posted something on a museum's forum. Turns out the museum was in Otto's home town! Here's hoping you have the same luck!
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