[Riverkilt]

Man, I've looked at about every possible travel security invention there is on line - waist belts, money belts, neck wallets, shoulder holster type underarm wallets...et.al.

Nothing seems easy or comfortable to wear while kilted in hot humid climes.

So just sort of thought through what I'd want if I could find it and came up with hidden cargo pockets on the outsides of my thighs.

Would be like having cargo pockets with security zippers on the outside of underkilts. You remember underkilts by J'Dez? I have three of them and like them a lot (Yes its like a cotton slip. No its not feminine when I wear it under my kilt).

If there were cargo pockets on the outside of the underkilt, then my kilt would be over it to hide the pockets. Access would be easy since I'd just have to hike up the side of the kilt to get to the security pocket.

Any pickpocket that figured out what the arrangement was would still probably get tangled up in the pleats if he tried to reach under the kilt.

If someone makes these I've missed it. If someone did make them it'd be a great product. A niche market for sure for traveling kilties - but I'll bet every retail Scottish goods store and every on line middleman Scottish goods store would stock them.

If you're new to underkilts http://www.jdez.com/men/underkilt/

Know some folks on the board had problems ordering from them before. Emailed them to see what the current deal is.

I could probably sew some pockets on myself - but don't know about the zipper part...

[MacLowlife]

You might be able to start with a zippered pouch, like a pencil case. Instead of sewing it to the underkilt, why not just sew it to the backside of your apron? Unless you plan on carrying doubloons in there, it shouldn't cause any trouble. For (anatomical) comfort purposes, I'd put it between the two aprons, i.e., on the back of the left-over-right apron.

[Slag101]

Not digging the underkilt. The kilt is indeed an extremely masculine garment, but there is a razor thin edge to where, in my personal opinion, it can be mistaken for closeted transvestitery (if it's not a word, I just invented it). Once again, just my opinion, but this idea pushes my comfort zone. Then again, in my minds eye, if it's not wool tartan, it's not a kilt. I admit I am very conservative though. This most certainly could just be my issues and insecurities, but we all have issues.

[Riverkilt]

Okay fine...baffles me how the kilt can be masculine but the kilt protection isn't. Don't see the need to be bifurcated under the kilt to be manly or to protect myself from cross dressing accusations.

So, I'll tell a story again. There was a famous Spanish bullfighter renowned for his skill and courage in the ring. One evening, after the bullfights, he had some friends over to his house for supper and a party.

The bullfighter was also a great cook and prepared the dinner for his friends himself. He put on an apron while he was cooking and one of his friends began teasing him for wearing something "feminine." He turned and looked hard at the man and said, "Sir, I'll have you know that EVERYTHING I wear is masculine."

If I choose to purchase, and wear, underkilts to protect my kilt and still preserve the FREEDOM of being regimental - then those underkilts are masculine.

Your mileage may differ.

Now, if I can just figure a way to rig some security pockets on the sides I'll be a happy camper.

[St. Amish]

The only thought I have is that the kilt is held up by buckles, tailoring, and a kilt belt. The underkilt appears to be held up with elastic. Any weight in pockets attached to the underkilt might make it creep down.

"Uh, dude, your slip is showing?"

[Slag101]

Originally Posted by Riverkilt

Okay fine...baffles me how the kilt can be masculine but the kilt protection isn't. Don't see the need to be bifurcated under the kilt to be manly or to protect myself from cross dressing accusations.

So, I'll tell a story again. There was a famous Spanish bullfighter renowned for his skill and courage in the ring. One evening, after the bullfights, he had some friends over to his house for supper and a party.

The bullfighter was also a great cook and prepared the dinner for his friends himself. He put on an apron while he was cooking and one of his friends began teasing him for wearing something "feminine." He turned and looked hard at the man and said, "Sir, I'll have you know that EVERYTHING I wear is masculine."

If I choose to purchase, and wear, underkilts to protect my kilt and still preserve the FREEDOM of being regimental - then those underkilts are masculine.

Your mileage may differ.

Now, if I can just figure a way to rig some security pockets on the sides I'll be a happy camper.

Sir, you need not defend yourself from any attacks to your masculinity, as none were made. I stated my personal opinion, and clearly stated it as such. I am sorry you were offended, as that was not the intent. I was just making an observation of my own values/beliefs/fears/issues/concepts. I clearly stated this as well. I do not know you, and there for could not challenge your masculinity on a personal level. If it makes you feel better about my intent, and helps you realize no harm was meant, I will tell you this; My profession is as an RN. For those who do not know I am a male nurse. My masculinity could easily be challenged on that. Once again, nothing personal.

[Riverkilt]

Have worked with many male nurses and have the highest respect for them - work with one daily now as a matter of fact.

Wasn't so much reacting to your post - as to the past trend to go astray on posts mentioning underkilts and men thinking they're somehow feminine.

And, St. Amish, had thought the same thing. Was thinking maybe just the weight of the passport a few large bills and some plastic.

Crack me up...the project will evolve into an underkilt, with cargo pockets and suspenders/braces.....

[bear@bearkilts.com]

I often sew a pocket on the outside of the inner apron. It's covered by the outer apron, but accessible from the top. I keep my phone in it. A zipper orvelcro could easily be added for security.
BTW, I sometimes loosely stitch, (6 stitches per side), some pv on the inside of a wool kilt's inner apron to cut down on laundering/ironing.

[Riverkilt]

Crack me up Bear!!

For us olde guys - right??

[Dixiecat]

http://www.saf-t-pockets.com/patterns.asp

I know these are patterns for women's clothing, but have a look at the pictures. Maybe something there can help with your idea?