Interesting pin

[herminator]

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[Moose McLennan]

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Moin Hermann,



I'm sure I saw that as a belt buckle once too. Quite well done. That would do me fine as a clan motto. Was never too sure exactly what Hoc Majorum Virtus ("This is the valour of my ancestors") is really supposed to mean...

Cheers
M.

[Iolaus]

Seems to me, I saw someone on ebay a few months ago (maybe them?) that had 100 of them available. They didn't get many takers.

[Nick]

I'd like to get one. And though I haven't sat down and worked through it, I'm pretty sure "Don't let the bastards grind you down" isn't a literal translation like they claim, but that's okay. I'll sit down and find out sometime.

[kiltimabar]

I just ordered one. I think it will do fine on my casual kilts; I've been looking for something to use on my camouflage UK. I recall this motto as something of a catch phrase in my Navy days.

[bubba]

I think it's supposed to be " Non Illigitimi Carborundum Est"

[switchblade5984]

yeah well they dont reply to emails

[The Wizard of BC]

I have adopted that clan crest as the Freedom Kilts "official" crest.
I have ordered a lot of them and will have them available in the shop.
As clan Crest/Cap Badges and mounted on Belt Buckles.
If you can't find another on e-bay, give me a call.

"non illigitimi corborundem est"

According to my Latin Major student this is the correct version, but I have been using

"illigitimi non corborundum"

for before most of you were born as my personal motto.

[Caradoc]

"non illigitimi corborundem est"

I hate to be nit-picky, but shouldn't that be "Ne Molesti Te Deprimant?" (Literally, "Don't let troublesome people press you down".)

[Nick]

I think it's the effect of "bastard" which is what makes it especially poiniant to English speakers. It's a bit stronger than "troublesome people."

My Latin dictionary doesn't have an entry for a form of illigitimi, but it does for nothus (3): bastard; counterfeit. I also can't find anything for corborundum, but it does have an entry for "grind down", opprimo (3), and "grind", contero (3). But, my dictionary isn't a large one. I need to invest in a comprehensive Latin dictionary and Medieval Latin dictionary.

One thing, of course, is that Latin mottos often don't make any sense when translated literally into English. There's often a bit of freedom exercized.

Cheers,
Nick