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    Pakistan sporran maker using UK photo

    I know it's often seen with jackets, especially Pakistani makers using photos of House of Edgar kilt jackets.

    But this is the first time I've knowingly seen photos of a Margaret Morrison sporran being used to advertise a Sialkot-made one.

    Now there's a possibility that the Sialkot maker did make a copy of that quality. But I have nearly the same sporran and that's the exact way the tassels are braided, that's the exact colour of the MM leather, etc.

    Note what they don't show: the back of the sporran.

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134485682...514e%7Ciid%3A1
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    I reported it to eBay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Richard View Post
    this is the first time I've knowingly seen photos of a Margaret Morrison sporran being used to advertise a Sialkot-made one.
    How do you know itís fake advertising and not a real Margaret Morrison Sporran that they are selling?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patty Logan View Post
    How do you know itís fake advertising and not a real Margaret Morrison Sporran that they are selling?
    Itís being sold as new and you can buy multiples so its new product rather than someoneís used sporran. MM sporrans are significantly more expensive than the eBay listing.

    Most damning is that they are shipped from Sialkot, Pakistan.
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    One can also check the seller's ratings and previous sales. This seller has only 30 reviews, all positive, but not one for sporrans. They've sold a lot of powdered coffee creamer and pretzels, one mountain bike, but all of their listings are for sporrans and wrestling belts (American WWF style tv wrestling belts), plus one varsity style jacket and one "tweed argyll" jacket listing. This has a lot of the hallmarks of a scam.

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    The thing is, Pakistani makers get generally high reviews on Ebay.

    Some people don't know the difference between Pakistan-made items and UK-made ones.

    Other people do know, but accept the tradeoff between quality and price.

    What gets me is when the Pakistani makers use photos stolen from UK makers' sites.

    For example more than one Sialkot maker has used photos of the House of Edgar "peat" tweed jacket. They're easy to spot because the jacket is displayed on a mannequin wearing a County Cavan kilt, the tartan designed and woven by HoE and as far as I know not copied by the Sialkot makers. https://kiltboxshop.com/products/men...sh-kilt-jacket

    (You can "massages" that maker, by the way.)

    What's more amazing is when the stolen photo has recognisable faces! Like these Pakistani copies of the popular Mr Antony BandSpec rain capes. (Robert Mathieson and Jim Kilpatrick MBE) https://www.ebay.com/itm/30445356934...xoCODgQAvD_BwE

    Here's a legit company selling the actual BandSpec rain capes using the same photo https://www.pipeline-bagpipes.com/PC.../rainCape.html

    Just for fun, Jim Kilpatrick MBE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpy8Tg1P5uY
    Last edited by OC Richard; 22nd March 23 at 07:33 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patty Logan View Post
    How do you know it’s fake advertising and not a real Margaret Morrison Sporran that they are selling?
    I don't think a Pakistani firm would import $350 Margaret Morrison sporrans to Pakistan, then re-sell them for $100.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Richard View Post
    The thing is, Pakistani makers get generally high reviews on Ebay.

    Some people don't know the difference between Pakistan-made items and UK-made ones.

    Other people do know, but accept the tradeoff between quality and price.
    The high reviews this particular Pakistani seller/maker have gotten are not for sporrans, however. They're for bars of soap, tubs of pretzels, and jugs of powdered creamer. It's a common tactic to list several cheap items, have a second account or a friend "buy" them, and give you high reviews. Then you list a bunch of expensive items and prospective buyers see your positive reviews and think you are trustworthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Richard View Post
    I don't think a Pakistani firm would import $350 Margaret Morrison sporrans to Pakistan, then re-sell them for $100.
    Good pointÖ
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