[cavscout]

Interesting product fro lightweight kilts in cold weather. It appears to still lack any kid of pleat or gusset to maintain the range of motion a kilt affords, but still a positive option in some cases.

http://www.backcountrygear.com/catal...tail.cfm/MB541

[The Barry]

I dunno... A nice wool kilt is pretty warm on a cold day. I would think that this item would constrict movement and fill out the kilt akwardly..

Just my $.02

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

Originally Posted by The Barry

I dunno... A nice wool kilt is pretty warm on a cold day. I would think that this item would constrict movement and fill out the kilt akwardly..

Just my $.02

er... yeah.... and the ad says IT'S A SKIRT!

[cavscout]

Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown

er... yeah.... and the ad says IT'S A SKIRT!

So is your kilt. That is not the point of this thread though so if you would like to debate what is and is not a kilt, please start your own thread about it.

MOR, it appears your font is messed up. If not, I'd appreciate a gentleman not yelling.

[The Barry]

My point is that without pleats, the effective circumference of the garment is much, much smaller than one's kilt. That dischord in mobility might make one uncomfortable.

[cavscout]

I totally agree with you TB. That is the biggest problem with most of the kilt liners on the market today. To me, wearing an additional garment under the kilt that limits the movement a kilt affords is not worth it. I might as well wear pants, IMHO, YMMV. A single deep box pleat on the back of something like this could do the job or maybe a pair of box pleats just to afford you the extra range of motion.

We had several members looking for a liner in another thread by Paul for added insulation. The only options found at that time were essentially slips that would not increase the "R-Value" of a kilt very much. This absolutely would, assuming it will fit under the kilt. I don't know if it would but I'm only sharing a find that others may find helpful or give them an idea to run with. As I alluded to though, if all you have is a lightweight, thin cotton kilt, this could help you be more comfortable in cooler weather.

[Dixiecat]

I won't join into the debate to wear a liner or not, but one point I'd like to bring up about the linked 'quilted kilt liner' is the type of fabric it is made from. It looks very much like a nylon type fabric which would be uncomfortable against bare skin.

[auld argonian]

Why do they need to re-invent the wheel so often?

First, kilts are plenty warm enough...are they trying to create some kind of paranoia that you're going to freeze your _____ off without another layer?

Second....why get into exotica?...just go pick up a pair of shorts...works the same and nobody has to know you've got them on.

This is one of those things like the old story (quite possibly apocryphal): The US spent a million dollars figuring out how to make a pen that would write in outer space...the Russians just used a pencil.

Best

AA

[KenB]

I'm really plenty warm in my tank. Living here in Canada (Toronto) we get some pretty chilly weather, but I've not had any difficulty at minus 15C. If there is a substantial wind chill my knees begin to feel it, but at that temperature everyone feels the chill. I find my kilt actually warmer than pants. In any event, someone had an idea and some people may enjoy the liner they developed. Personally, it is not an item I would purchase.

[Hellequin]

If it gets THAT cold I just throw on a pair of long Johns. Simple and a lot cheaper by far.