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    Kilt wearer in Scotland, and airport security

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    What else did he expect? however, yet another reason----one more of quite a few---- why I don't wear the kilt outwith Scotland.
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    I'm mildly perplexed here. Of course I'd leave the sghian at home and I'd not wear a kilt pin (it could go in checked luggage) but then the entire sporran is as easy to run through the x-ray as any lady's purse which leaves only the buckles to consider.

    If the airlines can't handle buckles with a wand, patdown, or private search, they have bigger problems with their planning than with their "planing".

    To me, it's not so much a disgrace as a stupidity.
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    I've considered it

    Quote Originally Posted by Father Bill View Post
    I'm mildly perplexed here. Of course I'd leave the sghian at home and I'd not wear a kilt pin (it could go in checked luggage) but then the entire sporran is as easy to run through the x-ray as any lady's purse which leaves only the buckles to consider.

    If the airlines can't handle buckles with a wand, patdown, or private search, they have bigger problems with their planning than with their "planing".

    To me, it's not so much a disgrace as a stupidity.
    I have considered wearing my kilt when flying but my wife has explained to me the error of my thoughts. I have a hearing impairment to such a degree that for the most part I don't understand what is being said if I can't see the speakers mouth. Even though I have explained my issues to security people I am usually the one who is given the "extra" screening......I can only imagine what it would be like if I was wearing my kilted outfit......Much easier to pack it and put it on when I have arrived at my destination

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    I have flown kilted twice and had no issues with airport security except to be asked on one flight if I was carrying "the sock knife". I told the TSA agent that I had left my sgain dubh at home. I put my kilt belt and sporran through the X-ray scanner and walked through the metal detector expecting the buckles on my kilt to set off the alarm (which they didn't). Granted it was on a domestic carrier within the Continental U.S. from San Francisco, California to Denver, Colorado the first time and from Orlando, Florida to Colorado Springs Airport the second time.
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    Much ado about nothing. I will be wearing a kilt to travel to France and Germany next week and of course I will not be taking a sgian-dhu with me and my kilt pin will be travelling as packed luggage. The sporran and belt always come off to go through the security belt. If you turn slightly sideways to go through the metal detector you are less likely to trigger it as your buckles will go through separately rather than side by side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LANCER1562 View Post
    I put my kilt belt and sporran through the X-ray scanner and walked through the metal detector expecting the buckles on my kilt to set off the alarm (which they didn't).
    Slow to respond, but I have flown kilted domestically within Canada and between France/Belgium and Scotland; I have also gone through a similar check-in for Eurostar between Lille (home) and London. I have never had an issue, although yes, as has frequently been the case for other travels, regardless of what I was wearing, I have been pulled over for a secondary check. Once in particular, when the (male) attendant told me he needed to pat me down, I spread my legs slightly, smiled, and said "go for it." The attendant blushed deeply while others howled with laughter.
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    Interesting.
    I have been flying and been security checked a couple of times wearing a traditional kilt with metal buckles. No problems at all. Just had to put the sporran and belt on the belt to be x-rayed. My kilt pin (Xmarks-the Scot-cap badge) has been usually in my carry-on baggage if I had not forgotten to take it off the kilt, even so, no problems.

    The airports have been: Helsinki (several times), Edinburgh, London, and Lisbon. Maybe also Havanna (Cuba) but I do not remember for sure did I fly wearing the kilt even I wore a kilt all the time in Cuba.
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    Now come on chaps I don't want to overplay this, but the world is not as safe as perhaps it might be. Europe, the UK has recently been a target for terrorists too often, other parts of the rest of the world have been and might be, almost certainly will be, again. That is how it is. So when I or my loved ones are flying at 15000 ft I am comforted by the fact that someone in security is doing their job. One hopes they are anyway and lets face it, their intelligence information is more up to date than ours. Inconvenient it is, but its the price, a small price, we have to pay in the reality of the threat of today. Its no good ignoring it, or, bleating about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Father Bill View Post
    I'm mildly perplexed here. Of course I'd leave the sghian at home and I'd not wear a kilt pin (it could go in checked luggage) but then the entire sporran is as easy to run through the x-ray as any lady's purse which leaves only the buckles to consider.

    If the airlines can't handle buckles with a wand, patdown, or private search, they have bigger problems with their planning than with their "planing".

    To me, it's not so much a disgrace as a stupidity.
    I agree Father Bill. In today's world of travel, you would think by now people would be very aware of the checkpoint and boarding requirements, what to carry, what not to carry, what to put in a suite case to check-in and what to keep home. Working for US Customs, I see it all. How does one "forget" they are carrying a fully loaded pistol, or a sheath blade knife, as they go through a TSA Checkpoint, or worse yet, as they arrive into the United States with a Italian Salami in their suitcase, or carrying a potted flower from another country, or taking in fruit and the list goes on. I am just amazed with what I see everyday.

    There is a current story that happened just this week of a lady trying to board an aircraft with her pet Peacock, that she considered to be her "emotional support pet". The thing was huge, my Custom Officer buddies in Newark saw the whole thing, TSA and the Airline was right. Again why do people think their weird rights should overrule the rights of the majority. How would you like to sit next to a large Peacock when the plane is taking off or landing. The worse part of the story she called ahead and was told NOT to take the bird, but she did, and was not allowed to board, now she is suing the airline. UNREAL what goes on.
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    Scottish Roots: Knoidart, Inverness, Scotland, then to Antigonish, Nova Scotia, Canada.

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