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    Thanks for all the help. I was aware of the multiple titles, but just found the line a bit odd. Then again script writers are not know for historical accuracy even in historical dramas.

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    Timely article about the celebration of Prince Charles becoming Prince of Wales.

    Buckingham Palace event marks Prince of Wales' 50 years

    From the article, “Prince Charles became Prince of Wales aged 9 in July 1958 and was formally invested with the title by the Queen in July 1969 at Caernarfon Castle.”
    Descendant of the Gillises and MacDonalds of North Morar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomo View Post
    I think it varies - but isn't automatic - in Berite's case he became Prince of Wales on 8 December 1841, about a month after his birth. Whereas, he automatically became the Duke of Cornwall and the Duke of Rothesay (more relevant for kilt wearing) on his birth. Duke of Rothesay is also a restricted tartan that only the title holder may wear.
    Duke of Rothesay is not a restricted tartan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl R View Post
    Comparing the two in the Tartan Register, I can't particularly tell the difference between the Stewart Dress and the Stewart Dress Royal.


    How does that work? In the Tartan Register, the Duke of Rothesay tartan is put in the "Royal" category (though there's a similar "District" tartan), but it doesn't list any restrictions.

    Does that make it a restricted tartan or not?

    There's also a Duke of Rothesay Hunting tartan, but it's listed as being in the "District" category, and no restrictions are listed.
    This just highlights what a mess a lot of the records are and the fact that they need to be reviewed and revised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benning Boy View Post
    I wondered the same thing about the half-pint prince's kilt. And, why it is dress Stewart and not the Royal.?
    At that date it should not have been either, both Princes Albert and Alfred wore the Balmoral tartan. Only Prince Albert seems to have worn the Royal Stewart at that date.

    Quote Originally Posted by kingandrew View Post
    I seem to recall reading that the Dress Stewart tartan was developed at Victoria's behest, so maybe that's why the costume designer chose it? It is an interesting detail.
    I too have read that but it's not the case, it seems to have been one of the Sobieski Stuart's designs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benning Boy View Post

    As for the Prince of Wales title isn't that sort of thing bestowed in adulthood? That certainly was the case for the current prince.
    Not at all. The original Prince of Wales was a baby - giern that the Welsh were told 5hey would have a Prince who could not speak a word of English..allegedly...

    Charles has been Prince of Wales ever since I can remember as well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allan Thomson View Post
    Not at all. The original Prince of Wales was a baby - giern that the Welsh were told 5hey would have a Prince who could not speak a word of English..allegedly...

    Charles has been Prince of Wales ever since I can remember as well...
    The present Prince of Wales was created as such in 1958, so he would have been about 10 years old and his Investiture was some years later. He also studied the Welsh language at university.
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    " Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    The present Prince of Wales was created as such in 1958, so he would have been about 10 years old and his Investiture was some years later. He also studied the Welsh language at university.
    Well I wasn't alive as such then, but my point remains he's been Prince of Wales for a long time.

    My point about the original Prince of Wales still stands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allan Thomson View Post
    Well I wasn't alive as such then, but my point remains he's been Prince of Wales for a long time.

    My point about the original Prince of Wales still stands.
    Some of us would not consider 50 years as a long time!
    " Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    Some of us would not consider 50 years as a long time!
    My point was that one poster claimed that the Prince of Wales was a title bestowed in adulthood and vlaimed that was the case with the current Prince of Wales...which definitrly isn't the case...

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