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12th December 09, 10:17 AM
#1
Animals die the natural way
I know some folks get pretty edgy about humans who kill animals. My wife was like that until she found out just what 'dying the natural way' really meant for wild and feral animals!
Here is an eyeopener:
A study was done regarding whitetail fawn mortality at South Carolina's Savannah River Site. 60 newborn fawns were radio-collared. 44 of 60 (73%) fawns died before they were 10 weeks old. Apparently 85% of these fawns were killed by coyotes (eaten alive).
He makes items, all handwrought; Combinations of metal, stone, and thought; Symbols and history that certainly ought; Be worn by any well-dressed Scot. Carol, 2009
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12th December 09, 10:31 AM
#2
OUch!! puts it in perspective.
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12th December 09, 10:35 AM
#3
There are worse ways to die that are also in the "natural way". The lucky ones that die "naturaly" are culled from the herd via predators, the unlucky ones die of starvation when the population exceeds the level of sustainability of an area.
Just a perspective.
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12th December 09, 11:52 AM
#4
I'm a hunter, and obviously I've had to have such conversations with many people who do not support hunting. I think too many people have this rosy picture of how the natural world is. Many people argue against me taking the life of a deer which I intend to eat, and seem to forget the almost certainty that animal would die anyway...from predation, hunger, or disease.
If you didn't care what happened to me, and I didn't care for you. We would zig zag our way through the boredom and pain. Occasionally glancing up through the rain, wondering which of the buggers to blame, and watching for pigs on the wing.
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12th December 09, 12:15 PM
#5
Here's a little side note. I'm a veterinarian and I HATE to see animals "die the natural way" even of old age and disease. I believe strongly in euthanasia when the suffering exceeds the joy of life and there is nothing further to do.
Back to your regularly scheduled program...
Be well,
The Flame-Haired Celtic Amazon Goddess
"All shall love me and despair!"
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12th December 09, 12:43 PM
#6
The mortality among the coyotes is undoubtedly larger; carnivores usual game plan is to have larger litters than the prey animals will support; if the prey animals undergo a boom, the pups all survive and can capitalize on the bounty and if they don't then the weakest pups die once mom stops nursing them and they cant take food away from the biggest pup.
May you find joy in the wee, ken the universe in the peculiar and capture peace in the compass of drop of dew
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12th December 09, 12:57 PM
#7
OK, while it's true that this is the off topic section of the forum.
And it is true that this topic does not violate a rule.
Is this really appropriate subject matter for a kilt forum?
Is this what we want to talk about?
How about we just let this thread die a natural death.
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12th December 09, 04:42 PM
#8
Phil in Idaho
"Walk Tall, Walk Straight, and Look the World Right in the Eye."
That Great Celtic Philosopher Val Doonican
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14th December 09, 02:13 AM
#9
Or if a truck hits it, Rest In Pieces !
I thought the natural way meant roadkill !
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