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09-04-2009, 01:44 PM
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| | | Improved Mountain Hardware Kilt
I'm starting a new thread on this as I think it's a big shift in kilts heading into the main stream retail market and the other thread didn't get much a reaction. I think many see the words "Mountain hardware Kilt" and think of the straight Unisex skirt that's been sold for many years. This second generation from Mountain Hardware could show a lot of promise and appeal to men looking for a more comfortable garment option.
Call me crazy but I see this as a big positive for the kilted community.
Many folks in the camping and hiking community who wear kilts wear this "kilt". Several brick and morter outdoors stores sell them as well a many online stores. The biggest negative I hear from many about this garment is that it does not have pleats. Well, if these reports are true, all that is about to change in the spring of 2010. Quote: |
It's a darker color, has two cargo pockets instead of one (but no smaller left-hand front pocket), metal snaps instead of the plastic clips, and is pleated in the back.
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09-04-2009, 01:50 PM
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That's starting to look more kilt-like, for sure. Whenever I've seen those to date, I don't see how the current design really works without the pleats. In the photo you've shown, there looks to a garment that would go up and down hills much easier. I think there's probably a place for a kind of kilt that's lightweight, quick-dry, and you can pack in with the rest of your gear and not have to worry about pristine pleats.
Thanks for the sneak peek.
Regards,
Rex, who does not hike much.
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09-04-2009, 02:04 PM
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Yes that new version certainly looks like it would have a lot of potential buyers.
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09-04-2009, 03:07 PM
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I'd wear it, although I'm not that fond of cargo pockets - love my mocker pockets.
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09-04-2009, 05:05 PM
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That's a huge improvement. The non-pleated version looked like a woman's skirt to me. The new one looks like a typical contemporary kilt which I associate with a man's garment. Does it have a fold over double apron?
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09-04-2009, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JRB  That's a huge improvement. The non-pleated version looked like a woman's skirt to me. The new one looks like a typical contemporary kilt which I associate with a man's garment. | I'll agree, and say that I think it's so interesting that that difference is just a few inches of surplus fabric gathered in a particular way. Somewhere in these two kilts is the tipping point, for those who allow the notion of contemporary kilts.
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09-04-2009, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JRB That's a huge improvement. The non-pleated version looked like a woman's skirt to me. The new one looks like a typical contemporary kilt which I associate with a man's garment. Does it have a fold over double apron? | That was my first thought. I wouldn't wear it without pleats. I'd would get one for my wife , though! Now the second gen, on the other hand- that one I like! Minus the pockets. I'm not big on pockets on kilts. I ordered a Flamingo Kilt because the price was right and the pockets are optional.
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09-04-2009, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Rex_Tremende That's starting to look more kilt-like, for sure. Whenever I've seen those to date, I don't see how the current design really works without the pleats. In the photo you've shown, there looks to a garment that would go up and down hills much easier. I think there's probably a place for a kind of kilt that's lightweight, quick-dry, and you can pack in with the rest of your gear and not have to worry about pristine pleats.
Thanks for the sneak peek.
Regards,
Rex, who does not hike much. | what are these made of? Nylon or some such?
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09-04-2009, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Rex_Tremende I'll agree, and say that I think it's so interesting that that difference is just a few inches of surplus fabric gathered in a particular way. Somewhere in these two kilts is the tipping point, for those who allow the notion of contemporary kilts. | I agree lads. That little bit of extra cloth has a real good chance of making this product much more easily accepted as a male option to many guys. A wise design change on their part.
The material I believe is a thin nylon.
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09-05-2009, 01:47 AM
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The second is closer to a kilt while the first one is definitely a skirt IMO. That guy in the top pic looks like a lady at first glance and indeed second (alright a not a good looking one)
I think they have a ways to go yet before I order one. A crisp defined pleat at least rather than a saggy baggy wrinkled one like in the bottom picture. It isn't my taste not being traditional, but I am the first to admit some UK etc have a kilt look, which is sharp and clean cut, this looks sloppy and cheap.
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