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Old 02-13-2009, 09:55 AM
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Allegiance and chief-less clans

I've read several times -- a couple of times on XMTS -- that a person can write to a clan chief to offer his or her allegiance, typically in hopes that the chief would reply and accept their loyalty.

Right now, however, a number of clans are without chiefs. What would a person do in that case?
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Old 02-13-2009, 11:25 AM
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I've read several times -- a couple of times on XMTS -- that a person can write to a clan chief to offer his or her allegiance, typically in hopes that the chief would reply and accept their loyalty.

Right now, however, a number of clans are without chiefs. What would a person do in that case?
By wearing the clansman's badge you are declaring "fealty" to your chief. I know some people are uncomfortable about this idea, but remember the whole purpose of the clansman's badge is to denote a clansman (or woman) that is part of the chief's family. The badge belongs to the chief, not the surname.

Some will indeed write up a bond of manrent to their Chief -- is it necessary? Not especially, unless you're serving in the Atholl Highlanders, I suppose. But, it's a quaint custom that some enjoy.

For the chiefless clans, the Lyon Court may appoint a Commander to act in the Chief's stead until a new Chief can be named.

Our own Sketraw has a very interesting article on his web site which is germane to this discussion:

http://www.clan-duncan.co.uk/clan-re...derbhfine.html

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Heck, I was going to say round up a bunch of henchmen and declare yourself the new chief.
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Heck, I was going to say round up a bunch of henchmen and declare yourself the new chief.
"I do hereby proclaim myself Chief...


...of my house."


I hope my wife doesn't read this
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"I do hereby proclaim myself Chief...


...of my house."


I hope my wife doesn't read this

But before you go around with eagle feathers in your bonnet, you better have some paperwork from someone official, or a permit from the Fish and Wildlife Service, or you may find yourself Chief of Cell Block 27!
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Heck, I was going to say round up a bunch of henchmen and declare yourself the new chief.
Funny you say that. I've read in two different places that Clan Macduff has narrowed their search for our rightful chief down to two people.

One is a gent in Scotland who is about 186 years old. The other is a guy in Indiana who could not possibly care less about all this stuff.

Needless to say, my resume is updated, and I'm tanned, rested and ready. I'm just waiting for a phone call.
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I can assure every one that I am not 186 years old, contrary to local popular belief, so it's not me they are looking for.
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Years before he was named chief of Clan Currie, Robert Currie was just a guy from New Jersey who started looking into his heritage. Within a few years of beginning that research, he became chief. At least that is how I remember an article from the Newark Star-Ledger from the mid-90s.
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I can assure every one that I am not 186 years old, contrary to local popular belief, so it's not me they are looking for.
And Jock you don't look a day over your 113 years!

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And Jock you don't look a day over your 113 years!

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