[keltic falcon]

hi folks, and merry xmas from scotland.

here is a question (i hope its not dumb) i am thinking of designing a tartan for my self - there is a tartan that i can use but its not called the falconer tartan any more but its called the keith tartan,

Q- do you think it would be ok to call the tartan Mac Falconer -even though the name does not exist.

[davedove]

Originally Posted by keltic falcon

hi folks, and merry xmas from scotland.

here is a question (i hope its not dumb) i am thinking of designing a tartan for my self - there is a tartan that i can use but its not called the falconer tartan any more but its called the keith tartan,

Q- do you think it would be ok to call the tartan Mac Falconer -even though the name does not exist.

It would seem to me that you could call a tartan anything you want, although it probably shouldn't be the same as another tartan name, to avoid confusion. If you look through the Scottish Tartans Authority though, you can see that doesn't stop some people.

[TheKiltedWonder]

Would you be naming it Mac Falconer in order to distinguish it from the tartan previously known as Prince, errr ... Falconer?
If so why not name it Falconer of Motherwell, since you took the trouble of desiging it. Or is there a location that the Falconers are associated with that you could use.
I'm sure there's no rule against using Mac Falconer, I was just tossing out other possibilities.

[keltic falcon]

TheKiltedWonder - cheers for ur responce , i may use falconer of motherwell, i just thought i would ask and get various opinions on it.

[Galician]

Holiday greetings to you too!

Have you seen the sites which help in designing tartans? There are several posts which give links to them.

Do you have any photos of yourself and your birds?

[keltic falcon]

Galician - sadly i dont work with birds.

[Nick the DSM]

sure why not? i would do similar stuff if i could.

[ChattanCat]

Call it anything you want. It is your design.

[M. A. C. Newsome]

Here's some free advice.

First, if you were to design such a tartan, I wouldn't name it "MacFalconer" because that is a name that does not exist. If the intent is to design a tartan for the Falconer family, then it should be called Falconer. There is no such family as MacFalconer.

Secondly, there already is a Falconer tartan. It's the same as the Keith, Austin, and Marshall tartan. The fact that the tartan shares more than one name does not make it any less legitimate. (There are many examples of shared named tartans: Hunter/Russel/Galbraith/Mitchell, Black Watch/Campbell/Htg. Grant/Htg. Munro, Campbell of Cawdor/Argyll district, Grant/Drummond, Drummond of Strathallen/Ogilvie of Airlie, Kidd/MacPherson, etc.)

In this case, the Keith/Marshall tartan was adopted by the Falconers when the Lord Falconer took over the lands of the Keiths, Earls Marischal, in the early 1800s. So the connection is quite legitimate.

There is also a newer tartan called Falconer of Labhdal that was designed in 2005, and based upon the Falconer/Keith tartan. It has two blue lines on the green field, rather than one.

In short, there already seems to be an established Falconer tartan, which is readily available (most all tartan shops will have the Keith/Austin/Marshall tartan). Creating a new design for the Falconer tartan would seem to be reinventing the wheel. That, plus it would also seem that there is a titled head of the Falconer family that might have a thing or two to say about it!

Now, if you wanted to design your own personal family tartan for your own use and give it a name that would not imply general use (such as "the Bob Falconer tartan" or "Falconer of Motherwell") then have at it. But it seems to be the best bet would simply be to use the established tartan already available.