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  1. #1
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    The level of Tuxedo?

    Hi Friends!

    You are specialists in wearing the kilt and as a regular wearer and honorary member of a clan I plan to wear it for my gratification night at work. I plan to be on the level of tuxedo during the evening.
    I have a "night sporran" and all the things directly connected with the kilt itself but how is it with shirt and so, is it a tuxedo-shirt and black bowtie that does it or what should I use?

    Greetings from a wondering

    Ingemar

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    Hi Ingemar!

    The kilted equivalent of a tuxedo (smoking) is as follows:

    a black dress kilt jacket-- a Prince Charlie coatee or black dress Argyle jacket are the most common;

    a white tuxedo shirt;

    black bow tie;

    tartan, diced, argyll, or solid colour (preferrably not white) hose;

    black shoes;

    dress or evening sporran.

    If you are wearing a waistcoat with your jacket then you do not wear a belt.

    Hope that helps, and enjoy your evening!

    MoR

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    Excellent advice there so nothing to add!
    Schiehallion kilted and true

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    If ethnic Swedish dress includes a dressy short jacket for man, that might work in place of a PC or an argyle jacket. I've seen some German jackets that would work, but I don't know anything about traditional Swedish clothing. The principle would be that it should be formal and should not fall below the top of the pleats.

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    Hi!
    Argyle, both waistcoat and jacket are my plans, have ordered kilthose in dark blue today to combine a "smoking".

    Greetings

    Ingemar

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown View Post
    If you are wearing a waistcoat with your jacket then you do not wear a belt.
    I have always seen this, my question is why? if you wear a 3 piece suit (with vest, Waist coat) you still wear a belt...

    so why not wear a belt with a kilt and waist coat?
    ~Kyle

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    Quote Originally Posted by KWD View Post
    I have always seen this, my question is why? if you wear a 3 piece suit (with vest, Waist coat) you still wear a belt...

    so why not wear a belt with a kilt and waist coat?
    When you wear a suit, you wear either a belt or braces to keep your trousers up. A kilt should not need a belt to keep it up. The belt is actually a "dirk belt" and properly is worn with that purpose in mind. Most people today, though, wear a belt with the kilt for ornamentation.. When one wears a belt with a waistcoat, the only acceptable way to do so is to wear the belt over the waistcoat. When worn under, the buckle pokes out from underneath the waistcoat and looks quite odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KWD View Post
    I have always seen this, my question is why? if you wear a 3 piece suit (with vest, Waist coat) you still wear a belt...

    so why not wear a belt with a kilt and waist coat?
    I think the major difference is that, with a 3 pc suit, your belt is roughly 1" wide, with a non-descript buckle.

    With a kilt, your belt is+ 2" wide and tends to be paired with the waist plate for evening. The buckle overlaps the waistcoat.

    Also, a kilt belt shouldn't (by design) 'keep up the kilt' it's more for a visual break between the halves of the body. A trouser belt DOES, by design, keep your p@nts up.
    Last edited by artificer; 17th December 10 at 10:55 AM. Reason: Edit: Doh! beaten to the punch by our own JSFMACLJR!
    artificer Pronunciation: \är-ˈti-fə-sər, ˈär-tə-fə-sər\ : noun : 14th century :a skilled or artistic worker or craftsman
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    Quote Originally Posted by artificer View Post
    I think the major difference is that, with a 3 pc suit, your belt is roughly 1" wide, with a non-descript buckle.

    With a kilt, your belt is+ 2" wide and tends to be paired with the waist plate for evening. The buckle overlaps the waistcoat.

    Also, a kilt belt shouldn't (by design) 'keep up the kilt' it's more for a visual break between the halves of the body. A trouser belt DOES, by design, keep your p@nts up.
    This i understand.

    My thinking is this however, I for one do not like the look of a Kilt without a Kilt belt, I normally wear a vest to occasions like this where you would want to be more formal, if there happens to be dancing that night I for one get very hot a sweaty there for remove my jacket and waistcoat where if i didn't wear a kilt belt (in my opinion) i would look rather silly with no kilt belt on..

    I guess it really is just a matter of opinion and what you think really would make you more comfortable.
    ~Kyle

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    Quote Originally Posted by KWD View Post
    This i understand.

    My thinking is this however, I for one do not like the look of a Kilt without a Kilt belt, I normally wear a vest to occasions like this where you would want to be more formal, if there happens to be dancing that night I for one get very hot a sweaty there for remove my jacket and waistcoat where if i didn't wear a kilt belt (in my opinion) i would look rather silly with no kilt belt on..

    I guess it really is just a matter of opinion and what you think really would make you more comfortable.
    As a rule, a gentleman ISN'T supposed to remove his jacket in mixed company. This is where the catch comes in. Also, many formal shirts are near-sheer on the body and many formal waistcoats are backless to aid in 'climate control'.

    artificer Pronunciation: \är-ˈti-fə-sər, ˈär-tə-fə-sər\ : noun : 14th century :a skilled or artistic worker or craftsman
    Artificer Custom Sporrans-
    *Home of the Original Kenneth MacLeay Sporran Project & Functional Brass Cantles*

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