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    Goeie dag South Afrika!

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    "It's proving a challenge to write this one up but hope to have it done shortly."

    Peter I am looking forward to seeing what you have found in researching this artefact. It should I hope, prove to be most helpful in aiding myself and others in reconstructing an historically accurate drawstring secured kilt.Thank you again for all your times and research.

    Brian, your experiments with the drawstring sound most intriguing. And that you have had good success with them as well. I too would like, if at all possible, to see some photographs detailing the process you have used. Is this possible?

    Many thanks to all who have responded to this post!

    Oh and to Mike, would it be possible to start another thread for information on the Austrian tartans, including an artefact recovered at the Hallstatt site in Österreich? I have a soft spot for the Salzburg area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Doktor View Post
    Peter I am looking forward to seeing what you have found in researching this artefact. It should I hope, prove to be most helpful in aiding myself and others in reconstructing an historically accurate drawstring secured kilt.Thank you again for all your times and research.
    Here it is. Hope it makes sense - http://www.scottishtartans.co.uk/A_H..._MacGregor.pdf

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    Thank-you, Peter. Very enlightening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Doktor View Post
    Oh and to Mike, would it be possible to start another thread for information on the Austrian tartans, including an artefact recovered at the Hallstatt site in Österreich? I have a soft spot for the Salzburg area.
    That sounds like a good thread for The Tartan Place forum. There is a bit of confusion on the subject that could stand to be cleared up. Were you aware of the Austrian tartans, or was this the first you'd heard of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Doktor View Post
    Oh and to Mike, would it be possible to start another thread for information on the Austrian tartans, including an artefact recovered at the Hallstatt site in Österreich? I have a soft spot for the Salzburg area.

    Tschüß!
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    At Herr Doktor’s request, a posting on Austrian tartans:
    http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/f...tartans-66758/

    And my thanks to Peter for the fascinating article on the belted plaid. I look forward to the companion article.
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    I really feel as though I should thank you for your research and hard work in putting all this information together.
    For the longest time I had been wanting to know about the BP drawstring, and how exactly it was done.
    Thanks to you, no longer am I going to have to be on my knees at an event having to do the same laborious task of pleating 4-6 yards time and time again.

    Would you be able to offer any insight as to what they used for the actual tape which forms the loops?
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    Thank you, Peter. Your paper is most informative, and it (especially the illustrations) confirms some of my ideas of how to make a drawstring plaid. I presume that the same technique might also have been used to make an early 18th c. drawstring feileadh beag. Although none of those has survived and reenactors obviously can't document the practice, I think it is logical to assume that a feileadh without the pleats sewn in would have been donned the same way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orvice View Post
    Thank you, Peter. Your paper is most informative, and it (especially the illustrations) confirms some of my ideas of how to make a drawstring plaid. I presume that the same technique might also have been used to make an early 18th c. drawstring feileadh beag. Although none of those has survived and reenactors obviously can't document the practice, I think it is logical to assume that a feileadh without the pleats sewn in would have been donned the same way.
    I think that that is a very logiocal deduction and might well explain the pleats/folds all the way around in the portrait of the MacDonald Boys and also that of James Moray, Yr of Abercairney. Ever noticed the similarity between those two?

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    Quote Originally Posted by orvice View Post
    Thank you, Peter. Your paper is most informative, and it (especially the illustrations) confirms some of my ideas of how to make a drawstring plaid. I presume that the same technique might also have been used to make an early 18th c. drawstring feileadh beag. Although none of those has survived and reenactors obviously can't document the practice, I think it is logical to assume that a feileadh without the pleats sewn in would have been donned the same way.

    My thoughts as well.

    Thanks for the paper.
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