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    The original kilt style?

    Look what I found today!



    The only example I'm aware of, other than in portraits, of the missing link between feileadh beag and kilt.

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    Peter, you are such a tease.

    WHERE is the rest of your information? Where was it found, est. date of creation, etc etc?

    I can only assume this gross oversight is due to an impending paper on the topic?
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    Good find, Peter! Please tell us more. Is this your photograph of the actual kilt, or did you rather find the photograph? I'm extremely interested in the provenance behind this. Military?

    One thing I note is that the box pleats seem to be pleated to the black line on the green, then shift to the double black on the blue about half way through. (There is actually one off-center pleat in the middle).

    I note, too, that the top waist band extends beyond the edge of the kilt itself, so I am guessing that it was used as some kind of fastener. That would also explain its presence, as all of the early tailored kilts I have examined have been selvage to selvage.

    What are the apron edges like? No fringe? Self-fringe?

    I'm very interested in seeing more!

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    Ah, the sound of hundreds of newbies scratching their heads and saying "Huh???"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tartan Hiker View Post
    Ah, the sound of hundreds of newbies scratching their heads and saying "Huh???"
    Exactly...you said it for me and beat me to it! What??? Huh???

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    Quote Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome View Post
    Good find, Peter! Please tell us more. Is this your photograph of the actual kilt, or did you rather find the photograph? I'm extremely interested in the provenance behind this. Military?

    One thing I note is that the box pleats seem to be pleated to the black line on the green, then shift to the double black on the blue about half way through. (There is actually one off-center pleat in the middle).

    I note, too, that the top waist band extends beyond the edge of the kilt itself, so I am guessing that it was used as some kind of fastener. That would also explain its presence, as all of the early tailored kilts I have examined have been selvage to selvage.

    What are the apron edges like? No fringe? Self-fringe?

    I'm very interested in seeing more!
    No. no, not a picture but the actual kilt. I don't think it's actually box peated but rather is a loose drape with no evidence of there ever being any pressing/creases.

    Wilsons' 'Fine Cloth'; 3 yards x 25". Here are a couple more pics.



    Detail of the pleat sewing



    And the inside



    Front aprom silk rosettes



    Top of the same apron. No fringe just a turned end.

    The kilt is said to have belonged to the Earl of Sutherland. Given the material I'd guess it's c1800-20. Bob Martin describes it as a transitional style i.e. the change between the unsewn feileadh beag and the sewn kilt.

    There's almost no attempt to tailor the material with the exception of where the pleating (gathering) transfers to the apron.



    Civilian rather than military I suspect and yes, I think the tape along the top was the fastening.
    Last edited by figheadair; 9th February 11 at 12:52 PM.

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    This is really ineresting. I have always been amazed at all of the different types of kilts and kilt closures. Not to Hijack but Matt it would be great to see pictures of all of the kinds of kilts and closures you have come across. Also anyone else who has different closures or styles.

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    Fascinating!
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    Quote Originally Posted by artificer View Post
    Peter, you are such a tease.

    WHERE is the rest of your information? Where was it found, est. date of creation, etc etc?

    I can only assume this gross oversight is due to an impending paper on the topic?
    I'd rather not say where it is right now, much more work to do, but the same source has a wonderful late Regency waistcoat and plaid in Wilsons' MacFarlane plus three first half C18th plaids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by figheadair View Post
    I'd rather not say where it is right now, much more work to do, but the same source has a wonderful late Regency waistcoat and plaid in Wilsons' MacFarlane plus three first half C18th plaids.
    Now you're just taunting us...

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