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    Putting together a kit (84th Royal Highland Emigrants)

    My brother and I are getting into re-enacting and with a thesis in Highland Loyalism, We've decided to go the most logical route possible.

    Join a Highland regiment.

    Trying to get more period correct stuff. I've got the back sites down, Townsend, Godwin, etc.

    The things that seem to be hard to get are: Raccoon sporran (The regiment leader said my black rob roy will do for a while.), Fully knit blue bonnet. I wish Ryan Ross still made his, I have one but it has red toorie when they need blue. And finally, red/white bag hose material. Or at least a place where it's almost historically accurate.

    Thanks for any help.
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    Welcome to the Highland reenacting community!

    For bag hose cloth, I prefer Wm Booth, Draper, https://www.wmboothdraper.com/ He only has the bag cloth with black lines now, but I have some of his earlier bag cloth without the lines and it is outstanding!

    Mara Riley makes bonnets, but she has a lot of other projects on her plate so I'm not sure if she'd have time, but you can ask her. http://marariley.net/
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    And presumably Government tartan in correct shades for the time?

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    You can get a bonnet here: http://historicalcaps.net/page2.htm

    Quality is high, price reasonable, and service excellent.

    Why is a raccoon sporran required?
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    I thank you for the link to bonnets, Benning Boy. I bet the raccoon sporran was due to the abundance of the masked villain as pelt material for that era. Just a guess.

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    I appreciate the replies. The regiment leader is a bit of a stickler and said the material from WM Booth wouldn't be quite accurate. Looks like I'll have to find another way, probably from a shop.

    Quite a nice shop you linked, Benning. I may look into that one. Knitted too, that has been a pain to find. The raccoon sporrans were issued by Major General MacLean as Tarheel said, because of the abundance of them. I've got a few sources saying it was for that reason.

    Figheadair, I'll be interested in finding out the accurate shadings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick the DSM View Post
    I appreciate the replies. The regiment leader is a bit of a stickler and said the material from WM Booth wouldn't be quite accurate. Looks like I'll have to find another way, probably from a shop.

    Quite a nice shop you linked, Benning. I may look into that one. Knitted too, that has been a pain to find. The raccoon sporrans were issued by Major General MacLean as Tarheel said, because of the abundance of them. I've got a few sources for them.

    Figheadair, I'll be interested in finding out the accurate shadings.
    There's a picture here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick the DSM View Post
    I appreciate the replies. The regiment leader is a bit of a stickler and said the material from WM Booth wouldn't be quite accurate. Looks like I'll have to find another way, probably from a shop.
    I'm a bit surprised your new unit doesn't have a list of recommended sutlers from which to acquire the necessary items of your kit, especially since the items you need have to meet their specifications. They should have some recommendations for you on where to get your hose cloth, bonnet, sporran, leather gear, etc, as well as patterns available for your regimental, or an approved tailor. If they don't, then they shouldn't be complaining if you can't what you need. Your new unit has a responsibility in helping new recruits outfit themselves, otherwise they won't keep many new members.

    My first Highland unit (we did the 77th for the F&I War and the 71st for the Rev War) had a small stock of some kit items like tartan and buttons on hand, and they provided recruits with a list of sutlers/vendors where you could acquire accepted muskets, bayonets, cartridge boxes, shoes, etc, as well as a suggested list of "acceptable" alternatives until you could acquire the more correct items (I used a heavily modified French beret in the beginning). Coat and wesket patterns were available so you could make your own clothing, or have it made if you lacked the skills or time. We also had a generally accepted time in which to acquire what kit you needed, understanding that it took time and money to assemble even the basics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir William View Post
    I'm a bit surprised your new unit doesn't have a list of recommended sutlers from which to acquire the necessary items of your kit, especially since the items you need have to meet their specifications. They should have some recommendations for you on where to get your hose cloth, bonnet, sporran, leather gear, etc, as well as patterns available for your regimental, or an approved tailor. If they don't, then they shouldn't be complaining if you can't what you need. Your new unit has a responsibility in helping new recruits outfit themselves, otherwise they won't keep many new members.

    My first Highland unit (we did the 77th for the F&I War and the 71st for the Rev War) had a small stock of some kit items like tartan and buttons on hand, and they provided recruits with a list of sutlers/vendors where you could acquire accepted muskets, bayonets, cartridge boxes, shoes, etc, as well as a suggested list of "acceptable" alternatives until you could acquire the more correct items (I used a heavily modified French beret in the beginning). Coat and wesket patterns were available so you could make your own clothing, or have it made if you lacked the skills or time. We also had a generally accepted time in which to acquire what kit you needed, understanding that it took time and money to assemble even the basics.
    Yeah, they should. They've been around for years I'm told, but it's run by people not so technologically efficient at times haha. They told us to get the basics and gave us some places. Still need to get a pattern or something from them to make the regimental jacket. They have some spare clothes, but they helluva lot taller and bigger than the both of us. We're short and scrawny, and no spare clothes fit us greatly, as usual.
    Gillmore of Clan Morrison

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    Slowly our kit is coming together. Mostly borrowing some clothes for now such as the jackets and plaids. We've got shirts, waistcoats, shoes (which I have but had a wardrobe malfunction that day), and overall trousers now. One of the regiment members is making us period correct bonnets with bear fur and 84th badge.

    Mind the jackets as well. Brother is wearing 42nd, and I believe I'm wearing something F&I era. It worked for the rag tag "campaigning" look though.

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