View Poll Results: Which tartan shall we submit for consideration as the official New York State tartan?
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12th May 10, 07:35 PM
Originally Posted by Woodsheal
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13th May 10, 07:08 AM
From a kiltmaker's standpoint, the first design is a bit of a nightmare. Lots of stripes that could get lost in pleat taper and nothing that would work well for pleating to the stripe, if someone wanted that.
13th May 10, 07:20 AM
Thanks for chiming in, Barb. I like the first one, but I design mainly because I enjoy it and have wondered if some of my setts wouldn't actually be impractical to use for kilt making. I can't afford a kilt at the moment, let alone custom woven cloth, and no one else has ever had any of my designs woven, so I've never seen one fashioned into a kilt.
Originally Posted by Barb T.
I do hope we have success with our project and you get some customers who want you to help them outfit themselves in a tartan for our state.
I understand you're heading out for Iceland sometime soon. I hope you have a great trip.
Last edited by Brian K; 13th May 10 at 07:21 AM.
Reason: redundancy *sigh*
20th May 10, 07:32 AM
I contacted the NY St. Andrews Society, but have not had a response.
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20th May 10, 08:52 AM
Well, I'm from Texas, so I doubt I have much room to chime in on a tartan for y'all yankees but I think C looks the cleanest. That being said, I think I actually like A the best as it's more eye-catching.
20th May 10, 02:43 PM
There is a NY Police tartan already (didn't see it mentioned, or maybe the hair is in my eyes). Maybe use this OR "work" (change pattern but same colors) from it:
20th May 10, 05:48 PM
I voted for A because I thought it had the strongest design, the best proportions, showing more or less the Golden Ratio (look it up).
The boxy 1:1 ratios shown in the others result, to my eye, in weak designs. Though in many tartans a weak design can be saved by great use of colour.
(Reducing a tartan to B&W will tell you how strong the design itself is.)
But C is also quite pleasant.
A great example of the use of proportions is a comparison of many traditional tartans to those designed by the so-called Sobieski brothers. Their efforts were nearly always boxy and inelegant.
20th May 10, 07:52 PM
I appreciate the compliment, Richard, I know you're particular about tartans. Unfortunately, you may also have noticed that Barbara Tewksbury has indicated that it would be a nightmare for a kilt maker. I'm pleased to have designed it, but I'd hate to be known as the guy who designed a tartan kilt makers hate so much (Of course, I'd guess they're not too fond of one of my favorites - the Anderson tartan. I remember from another thread that you seemed not too fond of it yourself!)
Originally Posted by OC Richard
20th May 10, 08:13 PM
lots of small close together stripes are a nightmare as we have to deal with pleat shaping and to make nice pleats without stripes disappearing in the taper we like wider sections of solid colours surrounding thin stripes.
20th May 10, 08:36 PM
I am not from NY either, so I'm not voting. But I must say that I like C the best.
But then, as O C pointed out, it's a bit boxy. (The golden ration is not called the golden ratio for nothing!) Ideally, I would like to see C with the red and yellow stripes resized so that they are not the same size. That would reduce some of the redundancy of the squares. (The red and white in a Robertson Hunting tartan demonstrate what I mean.)
That being said, I'd be proud to wear any of the three if I were from New York.
Excellent work, Brian.
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