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    So true CDNSushi , and a big " gratias ago tibi " for that .
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    I am still bound to the Latin of my Forestry, medical and Herbology background. I don't think to use Latin words that will so aptly describe ... everything. My wife would think I'm cheating during our Scrabble games if I started now. I'll get back to you after I get a decision/ruling from her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDNSushi View Post
    Through my vast Internet journeys I once discovered a neat, handy-dandy Latin motto generator site. Just input the words you'd like Latinified and Presto!

    http://www.inrebus.com/latinmottogenerator.php

    Although... You may want to get the grammar checked by the OP, and perhaps at least one other party before you get it tattooed onto yourself... Lest you find yourself flying with pigs with wings. ;-)
    I took a look, it's quite an interesting site. They got the ones I checked right, even though it was limited to more common ideas and phrases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OKSooner View Post
    I took a look, it's quite an interesting site. They got the ones I checked right, even though it was limited to more common ideas and phrases.
    Yes, that is true... You have to choose from a drop-down list of words to put in, which makes it the limiting factor. I was thus unable to use the '(noun), (noun), and (noun)' option to generate: "Sex, Drugs, and Rock & Roll" and had to settle for a far more tame: Love, Knowledge, and Joy.

    Amor, Scientia et Gaudium. Somehow lacks that bit o' flair though...
    Duos habet et bene pendentes!

    To my eye, the peacock -- the male peacock, has escaped his cage, and I don't think anyone's going to be able to corral him or get him back into the cage of conformity. He's on his own now, and he's flying high!
    - Bill Cunningam (NY Times photographer)

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    If you look at my motto it is "Yo Mama" in French.

    Latin?

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    Mater tua.... I think... ;-)

    That said, one of my all time favorite books is "Latin for All Occasions" by Henry Beard. It's a timeless classic. http://www.amazon.com/Latin-All-Occa.../dp/1592400809

    The only complaint I have, is that if you use these Latin expressions, you are unlikely to find anyone geeky enough to actually appreciate what the heck you're saying.

    Mihi ignosce. Nunc est mihi cum quodam negotium de cane.

    Abeo.
    Duos habet et bene pendentes!

    To my eye, the peacock -- the male peacock, has escaped his cage, and I don't think anyone's going to be able to corral him or get him back into the cage of conformity. He's on his own now, and he's flying high!
    - Bill Cunningam (NY Times photographer)

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    When I started looking into my family's history and came across Clan Scott, I thought it interesting that the Chief of a Borders Clan that was rather aggressive towards their neighbors (English and Scottish alike) would choose the Latin 'Amo' - 'I Love' - as his motto.

    Since it would be difficult at best to find the original grant of arms (I don't know when the original grant of arms was done, or to whom, and it's not likely to include explanation of the choice at any rate), I prefer to think - and have suggested to others - that instead the motto may be the Scots word meaning 'among', or 'in the middle of', since one of the Scotts of Buccleuch (the chiefly line) was the Sheriff of the Middle March at one time. Also, the language of the Scottish royal court was Scots for a time, so it makes some sense (to me at least) that some grants were made with Scots mottoes.

    That said, I appreciate the OP's offer of providing a translation upon request. Very kind indeed.
    John

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    EagleJCS, while you would wear your chief’s motto as part of your clan badge, if you are an armiger you are free to choose your own motto. A long-standing Scottish tradition is for such mottoes to refer to or reply to the chief’s slughairm (slogan), although this is not compulsory.
    As for the Scots language being the language of the Scottish court: the term Scots was used because of an intriguing bit of nationalist expression.
    When the Gaelic-speaking Scots came to dominate the four kingdoms of the north, they realized that most of their subjects spoke English (or perhaps more accurately Old English, which had been introduced by the Northumbrian conquerors).
    So what was termed Inglis became the language of the court. But a nationalist reaction set in, and it was instead termed Scots (despite the fact that the word Scot had previously indicated Gaelic speakers, whether Irish or from Argyll.
    In the centuries since then the word Scots has come to indicate a particular set of Lowland dialects, but in those early times, it was simply the common language of the north.
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    Mike
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    [Proverbs 14:27]

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleJCS View Post
    When I started looking into my family's history and came across Clan Scott, I thought it interesting that the Chief of a Borders Clan that was rather aggressive towards their neighbors (English and Scottish alike) would choose the Latin 'Amo' - 'I Love' - as his motto.

    Since it would be difficult at best to find the original grant of arms (I don't know when the original grant of arms was done, or to whom, and it's not likely to include explanation of the choice at any rate), I prefer to think - and have suggested to others - that instead the motto may be the Scots word meaning 'among', or 'in the middle of', since one of the Scotts of Buccleuch (the chiefly line) was the Sheriff of the Middle March at one time. Also, the language of the Scottish royal court was Scots for a time, so it makes some sense (to me at least) that some grants were made with Scots mottoes.

    That said, I appreciate the OP's offer of providing a translation upon request. Very kind indeed.
    I have a photocopy of the Buccleuch entry from The Scots Peerage , which unfortunately is not dated. However, with reference to the Buccleuch Arms it states: The only arms recorded in the Lyon Register are those of Anna, Duchess of Buccleuch, in 1672. With the following description:
    Arms: Or, on a band azure a star between to crescents of the first.
    Crest: A stag passant proper.
    Supporters: Two ladies richly attired in antique (style), with their hair hanging over their shoulders.
    Motto: Amo


    Scott, in his notes to Lay of the Last Minstrel says:
    "The Buccleuch arms have been altered. The family now bear Or upon a bend azure, a mullet betwixt two crescents of the field; in addition to which they formerly bore in the field a hunting horn. The supporters, now two ladies, were formerly a hound and buck, or, according to the old terms, a hart of leash and a hart of greece. The family of Scott of Howpasley and Thirlestaine long retained the bugle-horn: they also carried a bent bow and arrow in the sinister cantle, perhaps as a difference. It is said the old motto was Best riding by moonlight, in allusion to the crescents on the shield, and perhaps to the habits of those who bore it. The motto now given is Amo, applying to the female supporters."
    http://scott-minstrel.cath.vt.edu/se...elect=notes.VI see p302

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    At one time there was a young lady in our group that wanted the motto "Hey, you with the face!" I did a rough Latin translation because I knew she wasn't serious enough to last in the group. Upon being proven right, I blotted it out of our roll of arms. I just wish I could remember what it translated to. The motto on my personal (real world) arms is a scripture quote. So I just looked it up in my Latin Bible: "Sufficit Gratia Mea."
    Gloria Patri! Thither Yond! Jeremiah! Do-lang Do-lang! (All things I have shouted in a charge.) http://www.orderoftherouseclan.proboards.com

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