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Old 08-22-2006, 01:09 PM
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Rock Ivy

I did some research on Rock Ivy today. Everything I've found points to it being Atlantic Ivy,also called Irish Ivy (hedera hibernica). I'm unable to confirm this 100% so maybe some of our members in Scotland can give some details. Atlantic Ivy is differant from English Ivy (hedera helix). Both species can be found at nurseries throughout the U.S.

Atlantic Ivy (hedera hibernica)



English Ivy (hedera helix)

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Old 08-22-2006, 01:36 PM
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good for you

Fantastic... I bet the little buds/bulbs in the center would look real good stuck behind a badge..

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Old 08-22-2006, 01:39 PM
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In case some of you haven't seen this, you might find the Flora Celtica database useful in doing plant research. You can find it here: http://193.62.154.38/celtica/fcb.htm

I used it quite a bit when I was putting together our "Plants of the Celtic Region" display for our festival. For those looking for information on their Clan's plant it might be interesting.
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I guess I'll start looking around local and semi local nurseries for some Atlantic/Rock Ivy... I'll double check things with the staff of whatever place I manage to find.
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I am desended from French and Irish ancestors (among others). Does that mean I could put a french fry in my bonnet and call it a clan badge?

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Old 08-23-2006, 04:13 AM
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French bonnet badge...

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I am desended from French and Irish ancestors (among others). Does that mean I could put a french fry in my bonnet and call it a clan badge?

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A fleur-de-lis badge or one of the Breton bonnet badges would be better:

http://www.tartanbreton.com/francais/catalogue.htm

I am still on the lookout for a fleur-de-lis kilt pin, as my Cumming ancestors were originally Normans who moved to Scotland, and of course, for my DW, who is of French Cajun heritage.

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Old 08-23-2006, 05:36 PM
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. . . , and of course, for my DW, who is of French Cajun heritage.

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With a name like Canjunscot, THAT is such a shock!!!!

I'm surprised that a fleur-de-lis pin of appropriate size is so hard to find!!!! :confused:

Are there any clans that use Kudzu as a plant badge? There's plenty of that around here!!!!

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Old 08-23-2006, 09:11 PM
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Where can I find Rock Ivy? I have seen similar things in paintings... so if those can be believed, it's farily traditional. Then again, this is only from one book... and I have yet to determine whether it's an accurate portrayal, or if it is artistic liscense.
well i've had no luck googling for it. i may just use whatever ivy comes to hand. who'll know the difference?
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Old 08-23-2006, 09:24 PM
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well i've had no luck googling for it. i may just use whatever ivy comes to hand. who'll know the difference?
Is Poison Ivy included in that statement? You're right about most people not knowing the difference.
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I think you are supposed to wear a Kudzu plant twig with the Sate of Georgia tartan.
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