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26th August 10, 11:58 PM
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Olivers Family/Clan associations
I am researching for my first kilt and am trying to find out what clans/families we were associated with. I've traced my mother's family, the Olivers to the Jedburgh region of the borders in 1627.
The Frasers claim our family as a sept, however all the information I can find from Oliver sources emphatically claim no relation to the Fraser Clan. I have found several explanations including:
We never had any family associations and the mix up came from the naming of Oliver Castle by Oliver Fraser.
And at one point the Frasers lived on or near Oliver land and when they went north 2 out of 3 branches of the Olivers (ours being the one that stayed) went with them living on Fraser land.
Also I think the Douglas were given Jedburgh in the 1300's
Since clan/family ties were most often based on geography I was wondering which Family/Clan were assciated with this region.
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27th August 10, 04:27 AM
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 Originally Posted by OakJon
I am researching for my first kilt and am trying to find out what clans/families we were associated with. I've traced my mother's family, the Olivers to the Jedburgh region of the borders in 1627.
The Frasers claim our family as a sept, however all the information I can find from Oliver sources emphatically claim no relation to the Fraser Clan. I have found several explanations including:
We never had any family associations and the mix up came from the naming of Oliver Castle by Oliver Fraser.
And at one point the Frasers lived on or near Oliver land and when they went north 2 out of 3 branches of the Olivers (ours being the one that stayed) went with them living on Fraser land.
Also I think the Douglas were given Jedburgh in the 1300's
Since clan/family ties were most often based on geography I was wondering which Family/Clan were assciated with this region.
I suggest that you opt for the Oliver tartans - see below.

Oliver Red (Dress)

Oliver Hunting
Last edited by figheadair; 27th August 10 at 04:28 AM.
Reason: Further information
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27th August 10, 04:54 AM
#3
Jedburgh is located about two miles from the mouth of the Jed Water where it flows into the River Teviot. You could also consider Teviotdale district tartan from Lochcarron.
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27th August 10, 02:55 PM
#4
 Originally Posted by figheadair
I suggest that you opt for the Oliver tartans - see below.
I really like both of the Oliver tartans however I can't find anyone who has it in stock, and can't afford a special weaving right now. I was hoping to find a link to a more accessible tartan. I am not going to order a tank as my first kilt but when I do it will probably be in Oliver dress red
 Originally Posted by cessna152towser
Jedburgh is located about two miles from the mouth of the Jed Water where it flows into the River Teviot. You could also consider Teviotdale district tartan from Lochcarron.
Thank you for that tip it is a nice looking tartan as well. Do you know if anyone keeps it in stock?
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27th August 10, 11:46 PM
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 Originally Posted by cessna152towser
Jedburgh is located about two miles from the mouth of the Jed Water where it flows into the River Teviot. You could also consider Teviotdale district tartan from Lochcarron.
Doesn't really do it for me - too indistinct for my taste. What about the Roxburgh? Available ex-stock and the Red Roxburgh dates to at least c1840.
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