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    kilt button words?

    What do the words on your standard, shiny, square, kilt jacket buttons say? It looks like Gaelic? I've done some Googling but to no avail.

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    Clann na Geal - Children/descendents of the Gaels or Highlanders

    Not sure about An grall na crell - it doesn't look like right to me.

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    Thanks figheadair, that's a start anyway. Can anyone else chime in on the other half?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CMcG View Post
    Thanks figheadair, that's a start anyway. Can anyone else chime in on the other half?
    I've ploughed through both Dwelly's and McAlpine's Gaelic dictionaries to no avail. There's something that's just not quite right about the spelling of the words grall and crell. The latter should be in the genative (possessive) but the spelling still appears incorrect and I cannot work out what the root noun should be.
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    I believe that we've had a thread about these buttons in the last year, but my search-fu is weak. I can't find it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fluter View Post
    I believe that we've had a thread about these buttons in the last year, but my search-fu is weak. I can't find it.
    My search-fu is also weak on this one. Anyone have the link to this other thread?
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    I suspect it's because of the recent changes and thread locks, but I too have found that the Search here is a bit dumb and that if I simply go to Google with the same search I will invariably be lead back here to threads which were otherwise obscured to me.
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    In looking at the buttons on my Kilt Jacket, its very similar, but mine says

    Clann na Geal, just like yours

    but to me it looks like

    An Gnath na Cheili Which I think would mean

    A Practice(custom,tradition) Together

    So Im just missing one word: "Children of the Gaels _______ together" Clann na Gael ____ na cheili "

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamnthePants View Post
    In looking at the buttons on my Kilt Jacket, its very similar, but mine says

    Clann na Geal, just like yours

    but to me it looks like

    An Gnath na Cheili Which I think would mean

    A Practice(custom,tradition) Together

    So Im just missing one word: "Children of the Gaels _______ together" Clann na Gael ____ na cheili "
    Ah, now we're getting somewhere. gnath is prononced gra as in car, bar etc. Together is, le cheile. So the second phrase should read An Gradh Le cheile. A literal translation of the whole button would therefore be: Children/descendents of the Gaels united in tradition.

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    And together, united we can translate some wee words on some buttons! huzzah

    by the way (dictionary plug) I was using the Colin Marks Dictionary

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