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    Military Box Pleats

    Please disregard. I believe I have the information requested. Thanks.
    Last edited by Arnot; 10th July 16 at 08:06 AM. Reason: Have obtained information.

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    Hi,

    If the information you required was "How to sew a military box pleat kilt", would you mind pointing me in the right direction please?

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    As I recall, I sort of thought I'd figured it out. In the end, however, it would have been a lot of unnecessary work. In the end I never did it as my client elected to go with knife pleats to the stripe.

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    Thanks Arnot.

    I was thinking that maybe it is stitched like a traditional box pleat but due to the excess fabric, rather than make a "box", bend it around 180 to face the same direction as sewing progress and then baste it down. Does that sound right?

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    See my answer two posts down.
    Last edited by Barb T; 5th July 17 at 06:41 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barb T View Post
    Michael

    PM me, and we can talk.
    Thanks Barb. I sent an email.

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    I agree - I would sew it like a box pleated kilt, as you suggest, just with smaller pleats. I'm sure other people do it differently, but that would be my go-to solution. As you know from having made box pleated kilts before, you have to sew right in the very edge of the fold or you can't open up the pleat to fold both ways on either side of the stitching.

    Personally, I wouldn't baste the length of each pleat - there's no reason that I can think of that would make this necessary, and you wind up with thread marks down every pleat when you press. I've made what amounts to a military box pleated kilt with 1 1/4" pleats (like the one in the third image below). The customer wanted narrow box pleats, but the sett was big enough that there was a significant underfold. I just stitched and basted as I would for any trad box pleated kilt. If the pleats were narrower, I think it would help to have an extra line of basting. I'll try to dig up a photo of the kilt - I think I took one before sending it off.



    What weight tartan are you using? If you're using regimental weight, here's another basting technique you could use. I watched Elsie do this once with 18 oz tartan - she just started at the bottom and did a running stitch with one stitch in each pleat and pulled the pleats together like pearls on a string until each pleat butted up against the next. It worked because regimental weight is so stiff. I doubt it would work with medium weight fabric, but it could work, I suppose, with 16 oz if the pleats were narrow enough. I've never tried it.
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    Found the pics!! Tartan is the Glenbuchat (and yes, these are the actual colors).



    Last edited by Barb T; 4th July 17 at 03:04 PM.
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    That's a characteristically excellent and informative reply - thank you.

    So on the back of this kilt and other "military" box pleats, may I presume they cut the pleats in the fell and do the steeking as for a knife pleat, rather than the traditional box pleat steeking?

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    A Royal Regiment of Scotland, Black Watch Tartan kilt with military box pleats.

    On this kilt the fold within the pleat is the full depth.

    Steve Ashton
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