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03-18-2009, 03:18 PM
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I Have 2 ???
1. The LOCATION of the "Castle" ???
2. Any idea of who was in possession of the LAND ( Estate) in 1600-1620s ???
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1. I am sworn to secrecy as to the precise location. It is well known however that it is located somewhere within the extensive Cavers estate in Roxburghshire in the south of Scotland. I was unable to find the correct location mapped on the internet (though I did find one or two websites which wrongly located it). Indeed I would NEVER have found this if the present owner of the ruins had not agreed to take me there. Getting there involved walking among the trees along a path which was not clearly defined and the site is entirely surrounded by pine plantation.
2. According to this site http://haygenealogy.com/hay/scotland...gedouglas.html
Cavers would have belonged to Sir James or Sir William Douglas, 8th or 9th of Cavers around those dates.
Bear in mind there were other branches of the black Douglas family by the 1600's, and that other black Douglases also lived at Drumlanrig's Tower in Hawick and at Drumlanrig Castle near Dumfries.
See these threads:- http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/d...ght=drumlanrig http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/d...ght=drumlanrig
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03-18-2009, 03:38 PM
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Terrific presentation, thanks for the opportunity to gaze once again at the physical past and the images of imagination they evoke.
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03-18-2009, 04:37 PM
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Wow what a wonderful picture essay. Thanks Alex!!
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03-18-2009, 09:47 PM
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Great pictures... I thought that fallen log was carved with the croc features... Maybe somebody did?
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03-19-2009, 12:01 AM
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Great pics and info. Thanks for sharing.
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03-19-2009, 03:19 AM
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Fantastic pics & a wonderful history lesson
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03-19-2009, 04:41 AM
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Fascinating hidden history there. 
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03-19-2009, 04:44 AM
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Great photos, Alex. Thanks for posting them. I wonder if they would have got away with blowing the place up nowadays?
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03-19-2009, 06:38 AM
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Even BETTER pics! Fascinating!
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03-19-2009, 06:44 AM
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I wonder if they would have got away with blowing the place up nowadays?
| Perhaps not, as it is Grade B listed as a structure of historic value.
The present owner bought it to safeguard it from further destruction. It would be too big a project for him to attempt to restore and would probably need public funding. His reason for being secretive about the exact location is that if it became widely known, some of the artefacts might get stolen, lessening any future hope of restoration.
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