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    Brain fart -

    OK, sorry, having a major brain fart - What is the name of the hose sewn up the back from flat fabric?

    Does anyone have museum photos of what they look like and the type of fabric used?
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    My Gaelic dictionary has osan for "hose, stocking" and cadadh "tartan for hose".

    I don't know if there would have been a special name when the hose made out of woven yardage were standard because that's how they had always been made. A special name coined after knit hose became standard would be what's called a "back formation" in linguistics.

    Like needing to call it the "great kilt" after a new sort of kilt had come along.
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    Aren’t they referred to as “bag hose”?

    I’m sure one of the re-enactors will chime in soon with the answer!

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    What era?
    Most of the sewen ones I’m familiar with are medieval Hosen, Hose, Stockings

    Otherwise In modern terms flat knit socks

    sorry not very helpful

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    I've seen the modern knitted type meant for adult-sized legs called "fully fashioned" hose (vs. the all-one-piece "seam-free" hose meant for kids and others without a large variance in circumference between calf and ankle; these also being cheaper). But I suspect from others' replies, and reading your OP again, that these aren't what you're referring to.
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    Modren flat knitted hose sewn up the back are called fully fashioned.

    Not sure if that's what you're looking for.

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    Going on your description Steve, I would know them as "cadadh".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    Going on your description Steve, I would know them as "cadadh".
    Jock, may I ask how you would pronounce *cadadh*? With my Donegal Irish, I'd say "KAD-oo" and my guess is the Gaelic would be "KAD-ah" but I'm unsure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jthk View Post
    Jock, may I ask how you would pronounce *cadadh*? With my Donegal Irish, I'd say "KAD-oo" and my guess is the Gaelic would be "KAD-ah" but I'm unsure.
    I've always heard "KAD-uh".

    My Gaelic dictionary says

    cadadh, kadu, n. m. tartan for hose; cota de chadadh nam ball, a coat of the striped tartan.

    About "kadu" I don't know if they're intending schwa for the final u (like the final sound in opera) or the final sound in igloo and hulu. It's tough when a dictionary tries to Anglicise pronunciation rather than using IPA.

    In any case it seems they're saying that cadadh is the fabric the hose are made from rather than the hose themselves. Yet we know in language it's common for meaning to transfer from one to the other (jean was the fabric, not the garment).
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