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    Glengarry.....how and wear to attach a badge?



    Picked this Glengarry up from an Aberdeen store, thought i'd wear it for remembrance Sunday as two of my great grandparents were in Scottish regiments. I had wondered about attaching a cap badge and or where you attach them? I do have two badges KOSB & A&SH but as they're in photo frames with ww1 medals seems a hassle to mess on taking one of them out of their respective frames so I may just use my crest badge but again thinking about how its attached. Any good photo examples?

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    Cap badge on a Glengarry

    Look at this picture on the USA Kilts web site.

    https://www.usakilts.com/glengarry.html
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    Like this...

    I don't wear a Glengarry, but I'd think you'd pin it on just as you would on a Balmoral:



    Hope that helps!

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    Centred on the cockade /rosette, like this:



    If your going to use a clan badge with a brooch type pin just pin it to the cockade ribbon. If you're going to use a military badge with lugs and cotter pin you will probably need to punch holes right through.
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    Thanks chaps so i'm going to assume that a GG has prepunched holes to allow lug style badges with pin fittings or if not do you have to make these yourself? Sounds pretty invasive if you have to do it yourself. Simple enough if your badge already has a pin and lock mechanism but I know the old ww1 badges like the Argylls and King's Scottish Borderers are lug style fittings.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TenorClef View Post
    Thanks chaps so i'm going to assume that a GG has prepunched holes to allow lug style badges with pin fittings or if not do you have to make these yourself? Sounds pretty invasive if you have to do it yourself. Simple enough if your badge already has a pin and lock mechanism but I know the old ww1 badges like the Argylls and King's Scottish Borderers are lug style fittings.

    I mounted a lugged badge on a glangarry by poking two holes through all layers of fabric with a large diameter awl. It may sound a bit drastic but once it's on it's on, looks fine and I have no intention of taking it off .

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    Yikes sounds brutal I'd really like to attach this to my GG


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    The punch would be removing material, I would favour using an awl and gently separating the fibres.

    I also recommend testing the effect before the day to see if the fabric will take the weight without slumping as some badges are quite hefty.

    You might need to add a rectangle of something more rigid to help the ribbon - I would cut out a piece of leather sturdy enough for the job - having that sort of thing to hand, but if nothing else then a couple of layers of card, in best 'Blue Peter' tradition would be better than trying to deal with a badge drooping or swaying around.
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    One thing I often have pointed out on these forums is that civilian clan cap badges were made (at least by some of the makers) in two sizes, a smaller size intended for Balmorals and a larger size intended for Glengarries.

    The Glengarry size is 2 inches or 52mm in diameter. I don't have my Balmoral to hand just now to measure its badge.

    These civilian clan cap badges generally have an ordinary pin back. When pinning on the Glengarry you want to have the pin go deep enough to go through some of the wool. If you just pin it through the ribbon it will droop, hang crooked, flop around, and possibly tear off the ribbon in time.

    It always looks not-quite-right to me to see people wearing the small Balmoral-sized badge on their Glengarry. The proportions are off.

    Now, the old military badges are another story. They were specifically designed for wear on the Feather Bonnet and are usually rather large, and as it happens look great on the Glengarry too.

    Yes they have those long lugs (Feather Bonnets are very thick) that you put those cotter pins through. Leaves a mark on your head sometimes. The army appeared to have made the badges with two lengths of lugs, longer ones for Feather Bonnets, shorter ones for Glengarries. For sure I've mounted badges on Glengarries that had the long Feather Bonnet lugs.

    I believe it's Ian Grant of Edinburgh who makes cap badges with threaded lugs, with little knurled nuts you screw on.

    One note, the Glengarries of The Black Watch lacked cockades and the badges were put directly on the wool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Richard View Post
    One thing I often have pointed out on these forums is that civilian clan cap badges were made (at least by some of the makers) in two sizes, a smaller size intended for Balmorals and a larger size intended for Glengarries.

    The Glengarry size is 2 inches or 52mm in diameter. I don't have my Balmoral to hand just now to measure its badge.

    These civilian clan cap badges generally have an ordinary pin back. When pinning on the Glengarry you want to have the pin go deep enough to go through some of the wool. If you just pin it through the ribbon it will droop, hang crooked, flop around, and possibly tear off the ribbon in time.

    It always looks not-quite-right to me to see people wearing the small Balmoral-sized badge on their Glengarry. The proportions are off.

    Now, the old military badges are another story. They were specifically designed for wear on the Feather Bonnet and are usually rather large, and as it happens look great on the Glengarry too.

    Yes they have those long lugs (Feather Bonnets are very thick) that you put those cotter pins through. Leaves a mark on your head sometimes. The army appeared to have made the badges with two lengths of lugs, longer ones for Feather Bonnets, shorter ones for Glengarries. For sure I've mounted badges on Glengarries that had the long Feather Bonnet lugs.

    I believe it's Ian Grant of Edinburgh who makes cap badges with threaded lugs, with little knurled nuts you screw on.

    One note, the Glengarries of The Black Watch lacked cockades and the badges were put directly on the wool.
    I have a civilian Clan badge on my balmoral which would be about two inches across made by Ian Grant that has a pin and catch . I don’t know if that is the “normal” way for him to produce Clan badges. Of course the military being the military do things differently and the cotter pin system does stand up to the rigours of military life rather better. I must admit that I did not know that balmoral badges were smaller than Glengarry badges. Is that a military thing , I wonder?

    Just a thought, many in the UK choose not to wear military cap badges if they did not serve in the Regiment as a mark of respect to those that served in it. As a rough guide many choose to wait a decent amount of time, say 100 years, after a Regiment has been disbanded to allow for the last of the old Regiment to fade away, before they might choose to wear a military badge. Just saying.
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