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    A Good Kilt for Native Americans?

    There is a member of the Sonoran Scotsmen group out here in Arizona that is Native American and he typically just wears plain color kilts out with us when he joins us. I believe he also owns a few fashion tartans but no family tartans. I stumbled across this image that I intend to send to him as well, but I thought I'd post it up here as well to see what you all think.

    As we have all established many times before, you don't have to be Scottish, or Irish or Welsh or whatever to wear a kilt. You can wear one just because you want to, even if you have no family affiliation whatsoever. I have always agreed with this philosophy, as has my friend.

    What do you all think, what would you think/say if you saw someone wearing this tartan?

    Ayin McFye
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    I think it looks great, I would have to go up to anyone wearing that and compliment them, I'd also ask where they got it. The sporran helps as well.
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    I think its a great thing, alot of us in the good old USA have native heritage as well as part Scottish, Irish, Welsh, blood in our veins. As of the photo, great looking kilt and sporran, would like to find out where these items came from
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    Hmmmm...

    And Hmmm... again

    Part of me likes it, but I don't think it's actually tartan, for one thing (if I recall correctly, tartan is a subset of plaid, and the kilt isn't actually plaid).

    When I go out in public, I tend to try to reinforce the concept of being kilted (as opposed to cross-dressing) by always wearing a sporran and hose, and all of my kilts are either tartan or plain. Having a non-plaid pattern (even if it is repeating) would (in my opinion) really detract from the concept of being kilted as opposed to just wearing a cute skirt.

    My personal opinion (for what it's worth) is that it doesn't say "kilt" to me. It says "gender-nonspecific pleated skirt".

    However, the hunt for something is worthwhile: even though I'm blue-eyed, I've actually have more Native American genes in me than any other ethnic group my family's been able to identify. We'll have to keep an eye out for something.

    Maybe at some point come up with a tartan based on the New Mexico state flag?

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    There are a number of tartans that would be appropriate for a Native American to wear:

    1. The Ross Tartan -- Cherokees (in honour of Chief John Ross)
    2. Hudson's Bay Company (Many Scots worked for the HBC in the fur trade)
    3. McGillivary -- Creeks (in honour of Lachlan and Alexander McGillivary)
    4. MacIntosh -- (Also for the Creeks, and for the Scottish-Indian Scout Archie MacIntosh)
    5. A district tartan, such as the Oklahoma, Tulsa, Arizona, etc.

    Regards,

    Todd

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    As long as it is made like a kilt is made I think it is way cool. I wish you could have gotten pleat shots. Maybe later huh? The pattern is unmistakenly recignizable as American. I like it
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    I found more on it here
    It was for the Dressed to kilt event 2007





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    I think it looks really cool.
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    What pattern is it? my first thought was that it would make a good christmas kilt and infact i can see someone wearing that like people wear christmas sweaters

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    I wish they had a pleats shot, but thanks for the extra photos McMurdo.
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