[Drac]

Originally Posted by Kaw-Liga

Wondering how his principles and ethics compare to his mouth.


Does he sell PV in his shop??



Kaw-Liga

No he made a point of saying he doesn't do PV kilts. Now I'm a dumb American who has very little modern knowledge of how things are in Scotland but he was talking about some factories on the other side of the river in Edinburgh, made some derogatory remarks about the race of persons running those factories and how they were bad for the kilts.

Jim

[Lyle1]

Originally Posted by Drac

This week I was at a play when the owner of the kilt store here on Coronado (talk about small world) who also came up to me at the theater. He came up rattling off in Gaelic (man I have problems with English). We discussed kilts when I had mentioned my other kilts, which include PV, I made a big mistake. He went off on the wrongness of PV.

Is it just me or am I just lucky?

Well, at least you don't have to do business with the pompous jerk. Plenty of fine vendor advertise here without being rude and unpleasant.

[auld argonian]

My usual response in situations like the two you recounted is:

Thanks for your input.

One of the points of discussion here whenever someone recounts a story about meeting someone who's kilted but wearing something incorrectly (thought it sounds like you were doing everything properly) is whether or not it's proper to correct them and, if so, how to go about it. The consensus has always seemed to be that any criticism should be done humbly and politely and not at all in an arrogant or abusive manner. Sadly, a lot of people feel that they can dump on others with self-righteous indignation and get away with it.

There's a great story that Alexander Wollcott, the critic for The New Yorker, would receive letters that went on and on for pages and pages ranting and raving about something that he had written in one of his articles. He had a simple form letter that he sent to these folks; one sentence:

"Dear Sir/Madam, you may be right."

...though I cana't think that the windbag was right about PV...love that stuff.


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AA

[seanachie]

We make it to Coronado about twice a year, because they have one of the largest dog beaches in the country and it is really nice and our dogs love it.
There are an awful lot of snooty people and posers, who seem drawn to Coronado. I will be sure to be kilted next visit, and while not being confrontational sure will be prepared for any stupid comments.

[CDNSushi]

As the saying goes. Opinions are like ars****es -- everyone's got one. Even here in Japan, my buddy's boss (old Japanese guy who had barely seen a kilt in his life) started spouting off about how the only REAL way to wear a kilt is regimental, and anyone not doing so is ruining the tradition and shouldn't wear kilts at all... blah.. blah... blah.

Fortunately, my friend set him straight (in the ever-most polite way) and just pointed out that regimental is certainly ONE way to wear them, but not the ONLY way... And that his friend (meaning me) actually wears kilts regularly, and that the money they cost is substantial, so not everyone is terribly keen on getting them smelly and sweaty with their naughty bits...

Anyhoo.. I digress. I was going to say... You want to see posers? Come to Japan. We got the best kind. There are people here who have never gone surfing in their lives but actually BOLT surfboards to the tops of their cars and drive around with them so people think they are in with the cool kids! (No joke!)

[figheadair]

I was once accosted by an old lady (why is it always old ladies?) for wearing a T-shirt with my kilt. "It's not traditional". When I pointed out that my wrist watch wasn't traditional either I simply got the death stare and she marched off muttering

[CDNSushi]

I very much agree with the tack that auld argonian brought up... (I've been known to do this from time to time)... The best way to stop someone dead in their tracks is to AGREE with them. It's hard to argue with someone when they aren't arguing back... Even if you know they don't mean it. (And it REALLY messes with their heads). lol


Old lady: It's not traditional.

You: No it's not.

Old lady: Well, it just doesn't look right.

You: You're right. It doesn't.

Old lady: You should have more respect for the clothes you are wearing.

You: Yes, I should.

Repeat as necessary. Smile. (Illegitimi non carborundum).

[Inchessi]

Originally Posted by CDNSushi

The best way to stop someone dead in their tracks is to AGREE with them. It's hard to argue with someone when they aren't arguing back... Even if you know they don't mean it. (And it REALLY messes with their heads). lol

I have friends in Law Enforcement, and they do this hourly. I was with one friend and during a stop, some guy comes out of no where and starts accusing him of everything under the sun. He just agreed, and continued to issue a citation to the original person. I guess it is common practice.

[wildrover]

'Bout the only good way to put a bully down is completely pwn them in front of their friends. Grouchy old ladies and "that guy" across the street, they're pretty much the same, just different scents of the same nozzled, feminine hygiene product.

All that means is, you gotta be quick with your wits .

...Of course, I am a little more aggressive than some people here...I mean, there's always the Brave Sir Robin option, but we're wearing kilts, so sack up and give 'er hell .

*edit* Oh yeah...shrug...I might, in some people's opinions, fall in the "kilt police" category. Maybe I'm not gonna mention it, if your socks are pulled up to your kneecaps, flashes hanging out like a reverse of the infamous gangsta boxer look, skirt down at the top of your socks, bottom of your knee, or way up your thigh...what, you say it's called a "kilt"? Great...so wear it like one. You'll not hear it from me in person, but...fair warning, I'm thinkin' it. Why do I say this, rather than simply assume that everyone here is absolutely perfect? Cuz we're all human...just take it as a friendly reminder to make sure you're not walking out skirted.

[finlay marquisl]

Seems to me if a person has to ask you what tartan your wearing maybe he doesn't need to know. Especially if it was a baited question they already knew the answer and was looking for an argument. Or maybe It's just the high security clearance training I've had. "Need to know" basis only kinda thing. HA!