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    Wink Ladies, your opinion please!

    So, I'm reading that box pleats may have less "swish, swing and swoon" than knife pleats.

    What say you?
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    I'm no lady Father, but I do own both box pleat and knife pleat kilts. Let me say that without question, there is a bit less swish and swing. But there has not been any noticeable loss of swoon.

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    I live in a community where quite a few kiltwearers wander the streets -- some in box pleats, some in knife pleats, some in traditional garb, some in contemporary garb. From a female perspective, I admire them all. The aspect that attracts me the most is that by-and-large, all of these gentlemen walk with pride and have obviously taken some time with their appearance. So, do some of the kilts have more swish than others? Sure, but it does not matter to me! Just one opinion, of course.......others may differ.

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    Bill I own a fine knife pleated kilt as well as a double box pleated kilt. I am also no lady but I do wear a skirt um I mean kilt. The double box does have a touch less swish but I would say I couldn't imagine NOT having one. Its a awesome style of kilt and I plan to get a single box from Matthew Newsome some day. If you plan on having a few kilts make a box or double box one of them.
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    Again I think we may be confusing pleat style with amount of cloth used in the kilt. Since kilts are made with flat aprons, when you increase the amount of yardage in the kilt, all the extra cloth is incorporated into the pleats in the rear.

    A four yard kilt is a fairly balanced garment, with about as much weight in the front as in the rear. The more material you add, the disproportionately heavier the rear of the kilt becomes. The extra weight in the pleats is what gives you all the "swish and swing."

    So when comparing a four yard box pleated kilt to an eight yard knife pleated kilt, the knife pleats will" swish" more. But this has more to do with the amount of cloth than the pleating style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M. A. C. Newsome View Post

    A four yard kilt is a fairly balanced garment, with about as much weight in the front as in the rear. The more material you add, the disproportionately heavier the rear of the kilt becomes. The extra weight in the pleats is what gives you all the "swish and swing."
    I heartily agree with Mr. Newsome. It is the extra yardage, as well as the extra weight of the fabric itself, that gives the fetching swing.
    Ruadh gu brath!

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    I heartily agree with Mr. Newsome. It is the extra yardage, as well as the extra weight of the fabric itself, that gives the fetching swing.
    Then what about a double-box?
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    I am starting to feel the "extra yardage" I have on me.
    If you can avoid it never get into a fair fight.

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    So it sounds like there has to be a little extra umph in the swagger to really make those box pleats swish.
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    What Matt said about the total material weight I've recently had opportunaty to witness myself!

    A week ago, my girlfriend just got a 16 oz box pleated kilt skirt, made by Matt.

    She also has an 11 oz knife pleated kilt skirt made by USAKilts last winter.

    Having seen her 'move' in both, the 16 oz box pleat swishes about the same as the 11 oz knife pleat. Both skirts weigh about the same even though the knife pleat has a bit more yardage in the pleats. The match-up in swish has more to do with the material weight than the pleat style.

    I can add a bit more to that.
    I have a 5 yard 16 oz from USAKilts, and a new, 4 yard 16 oz box pleat from Keltoi. I haven't asked, and no one has ventured to mention it, but both kilts 'feel' like they move about the same.

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