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    Of the Military (Kilt) Rise

    I'm curious

    My last kilt (a Newsome Box Pleat) had the standard 2" rise, however on the next kilt I have made in the future, I'm considering the so-called "Military Rise" (4").

    I have two questions for those of the rabble who own such kilts:

    a] what are the pros & cons (if any) of a kilt with a military rise?

    b] if you have a picture of yourself wearing such a kilt, would you be kind enough to post it here?

    Thanks in advance!
    T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES
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    Here are some highland soldiers in shirtsleeves showing how high the true military kilt rises - basically to your breastbone! Looks like they'd be nice and warm, covering the kidneys and all. Something I'm sure these poor lads serving in South Africa appreciated...!


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    Terry, I don't own one, but I used to wear one. What I would consider a "con" is that I think the figure looks slightly unbalanced when such a kilt is worn without a jacket/waistcoat. To my eye, the kilt with a 4" rise just looks too long on most bodies if only a shirt is worn.
    "Touch not the cat bot a glove."

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    Here's the Hunting Stewart I sewed with a military waist:



    As Macman noted, it does look a bit offbalance with just a shirt.
    Extra height means extra warmth, which is a pro in winter and con in summer.

    The extra height did allow me to try this (inspired by Matt Newsome's blog): the single strap kilt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macman View Post
    Terry, I don't own one, but I used to wear one. What I would consider a "con" is that I think the figure looks slightly unbalanced when such a kilt is worn without a jacket/waistcoat. To my eye, the kilt with a 4" rise just looks too long on most bodies if only a shirt is worn.
    I agree. Without a jacket a military rise can make a oerson look like they have a disproportionately short torso. That wouldn't stop me from owning one, however.
    Jay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsheal View Post
    Unless you are contemplating recreating a Boer War soldier (complete with "trews" worn under the kilt) I'd suggest that the 4-inch rise is really a bit too much. It will look ghastly with a Prince Charlie coatee, and extremely awkward with a day wear jacket unless a waistcoat is also worn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown View Post
    Unless you are contemplating recreating a Boer War soldier (complete with "trews" worn under the kilt) I'd suggest that the 4-inch rise is really a bit too much. It will look ghastly with a Prince Charlie coatee, and extremely awkward with a day wear jacket unless a waistcoat is also worn.
    So, were the trews worn under the Boer War soldier's kilt the modern trouser-like type or were they the old style bias cut and tight?
    Jay
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    The following picture shows a "high rise" kilt worn with a makeshift PC. In most cases I would bow to M of Rs vastly superior knowledge but I must disagree that the gentleman shown looks "ghastly" inspite of some minor errors. (sporran a bit low and off-white hose)



    This picture shows the same kilt without jacket and again, I can't see anything negative. I also admit that my eyes aren't what they used to be.



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    Thank you for the replies gentlemen, I greatly appreciate it!

    And for what its worth, I think you look great Big Mikey
    T. E. ("TERRY") HOLMES
    proud descendant of the McReynolds/MacRanalds of Ulster & Keppoch, Somerled & Robert the Bruce.
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    On gentlemen that are broader in the beam, I think a military rise looks good.

    For us skinny 'uns, it's a bit of a stretch!

    Slainte

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