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Old 05-02-2005, 12:17 AM
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Saltire Kilt - Very Hot in Scotland Just Now!

House of Edgar are making something entirely innovative -- a kilt that is 'pleated to the flag' -- the material is woven so that when it's pleated, a Saltire apears across the whole back of the kilt. There's a big rage for them in Scotland just now. I can get one for you if you want it -- I have a trade account with them. Here's what it looks like:



It looks purple in the picture, but it's actually the proper shade of blue for the Saltire. Don't ask me why they took the pictures on an angle like that -- I think it looks stupid -- I need to get my own pics of it!

I know you want to know the price, but I just saw it for the first time last week and I can't remember what they told me about that. I will hunt up my notes and post the info here. It's a typical 'tank' in terms of weight and workmanship, but made from a very special weave, unique to House of Edgar, so it's not cheap!
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Old 05-02-2005, 01:22 AM
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We've seen this style before on Xmarks. I did a search and found this:


http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/v...t=saltire+kilt
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Old 05-02-2005, 01:45 AM
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Bear is right Cyndi, you have to get up early in the morning to beat the vigilant lads and lasses here!

It's very clever work, but sorry, I wouldn't walk around with a big X on my backside
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Old 05-02-2005, 01:47 AM
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We've seen this style before on Xmarks. I did a search and found this:


http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/v...t=saltire+kilt
Thanks for telling me about that. I had not seen this kilt in the US, but they are very popular in Scotland this year, especially in the kilt hire industry. I am not aware of anyone selling them here, though there could be some retailers that are. I had not seen one, personally, til last week. It's a very bold statement, and not something one would want to wear every day, but certainly a unique concept! The fabric is woven with a pattern of chevrons in the weave so the Saltire will come out properly in the pleats.
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Vexillology-the study of flags

As I recall, Saltire refers to a pattern used for certain flags.
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Old 05-02-2005, 10:57 AM
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Saltire...

A "saltire" is a term found in heraldry (the study of coats-of-arms) referring to an X-shaped cross, also known as a St. Andrew's Cross, since St. Andrew was crucified on an X-shaped cross.

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Old 05-02-2005, 11:45 AM
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Re: Vexillology-the study of flags

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As I recall, Saltire refers to a pattern used for certain flags.
Yes, as Todd said, in heraldry and vexillology, it's an X-shaped cross, also known as St. Andrew's cross. The national flag of Scotland, a blue ground with a white St. Andrew's cross from corner to corner, is known as the Saltire because it has the saltire motif on it. St. Andrew is the patron saint of Scotland.

The Saltire kilt is meant to evoke the Scottish flag, and when I said it's the proper shade of blue for the Saltire, I was referring to that flag.
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Old 05-02-2005, 11:54 AM
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Todd, does KTJ mean 'Knight of the Temple of Jerusalem'? I'd be very interested to learn about that.
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Old 05-02-2005, 11:58 AM
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Man, I still really want one of those, and they have moved up the list. One of these days.
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Old 05-02-2005, 12:42 PM
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One explanition of the flag is that the cross was seen in the sky made from clouds against the blue sky, If you have ever seen the documentary "battlefield britain" about Charles Stuart, you see the pattern in the sky at the start of a battle. Cindi was correct to refer the flag as "The Saltire" this refers to the flag rather than the cross. it is a very nice shade of blue.
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