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    Two buckle kilt

    I have seen a kilt with 2, not 3 leather straps and buckles. In all other respects (material, construction, size) it appears a normal kilt. Is this a practice? or did the maker forget something?

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    The third strap/buckle (the lower one on the right hip) has never really been standard on civilian kilts. Some have them, some don't. It's just an option that some kiltmakers or customers may or may not choose.

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    Agree with Tobus. My Watson kilt made by Matt Newsome only shows 1 strap/buckle. The second ones are there, but hidden in the construction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobus View Post
    The third strap/buckle (the lower one on the right hip) has never really been standard on civilian kilts. Some have them, some don't. It's just an option that some kiltmakers or customers may or may not choose.
    Thanks, I did not know that. I have a military kilt and a civilian casual (5 yds) and they both have 3 buckles. I assumed that because my civilian kilt also had 3 buckles that this was a norm. Does the 3rd strap over the hip not help the kilt sit on the hips and not slip down so easily?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farmer Jones View Post
    I have seen a kilt with 2, not 3 leather straps and buckles. In all other respects (material, construction, size) it appears a normal kilt. Is this a practice? or did the maker forget something?
    All the kilts that I have worn during a fairly long life have had two straps and buckles. It depends what the kilt maker prefers and to an extent what the customer requires. Either way, its no big deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farmer Jones View Post
    Thanks, I did not know that. I have a military kilt and a civilian casual (5 yds) and they both have 3 buckles. I assumed that because my civilian kilt also had 3 buckles that this was a norm. Does the 3rd strap over the hip not help the kilt sit on the hips and not slip down so easily?
    When a kilt is worn properly at the natural waist, it should not slip down. The third buckle shouldn't have anything to do with that.

    Matt Newsome has an article that briefly talks about this third buckle and its history: http://kiltmaker.blogspot.com/2005/0...lt-straps.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farmer Jones View Post
    I have seen a kilt with 2, not 3 leather straps and buckles. In all other respects (material, construction, size) it appears a normal kilt. Is this a practice? or did the maker forget something?
    The other replies on this thread have taken care of the business but I'd add that my kiltmaker has assured me that the bottom hip strap and buckle is, essentially, pointless. If present, it should be buckled relatively loose so it doesn't pull and distort the front apron. Most of my kilts have three buckles but two of them have only two buckles. One is a 4-yard box-pleated kilt with the internal hidden buckle on my left hip and the visible buckle on my right. The other is a 8-yard styled knife-pleated kilt that I've taken the bottom buckle off myself.

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    I'm not sure when and where the third buckle originated, it certainly wasn't the norm in the 19th century, or even early 20th century as far as I know.

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    My kilts all just have one buckle each side but I have seen others with three buckles, mostly hired ones. It may be that the third buckle allows for additional adjustment when a kilt is not perfectly fitted which would make sense from a hire point of view.

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    My kilts all have 2 buckles.

    As far as I can figure out the 3rd buckle came about on high-waisted kilts.

    Some modern kilts are so low-cut that the top buckle is about where the lower buckle would be on a high-waisted kilt- but the low-cut kilt still has the lower buckle, which is displaced downward and is far too low, preventing the kilt from hanging properly.

    It's absurd how low some of the 3rd buckles are. Whatever for?

    Note the position of the lower buckle on this high-rise military kilt.

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