[xman]

Originally Posted by grizzbass

He objects to the Kilt because he says it's like wearing an old base ball cap and dirty sweat shirt to sacrament.

CLEARLY ignorant of the matter. Perhaps there is a way to educate him although that might threaten his authority since he feels it necessary to dictate who can come and how dressed. He probably just watched Braveheart too many times.

[Downunder Kilt]

Originally Posted by grizzbass

thanks for all the replies. Just to fill in some of the details. He objects to the Kilt because he says it's like wearing an old base ball cap and dirty sweat shirt to sacrament. While he's not a bad man he isn't willing to listen. A bit of the god's representative has spoken. obey. His son rebelled and I think that has something to do with it. Cameron is the sweatest kid there is, intelligent, respectful and obediant but that doesn't seem to matter. His older brother (17) has had some problems with the bishop and alot of the congregation earlier. Not that he is rebellious. anything but rebellious. I have taught him to think for himself and do things because he believes it is right not because someone in authority tells him to. He is respectful but doesn't just doesn't say how high when told to jump.
That doesn't go over well and I think he wants to nip this in the bud before cameron is like his brother. He even took cameron in his office to give him a "blessing" so cameron could understand why wearing a kilt is bad. He did it without my permission or consulting me. I admit that angered me and we will discuss that.
At least my sons and I are haveing fun.

A few words for your "Bishop" May God have mercy on his soul

[McClef]

It is certainly not an LDS doctrine. Some Bishops have their own prejudices in certain areas and "unrighteous dominion" can creep in.

When I was active my local Bishop asked me to take out my ear rings when attending Sacrament Meetings because they were "inappropriate."

Yet when I attended a Chapel near my parent's home, all the Deacons were wearing them with no objections from the Bishop there!

There are several active LDS kilt wearers on X Marks who experience no problems. If there are other wards close to you with more accepting Bishops then you could attend one of them, or even take up the issue with your Stake President.

[Schiehallion]

As a former (endowed) LDS member I do have some thing to say...Tell the Bishop that if he looks to an old President of the Church David O. Mackay, that he was seen and photographed wearing his kilt. Did the first Presidency get it wrong ? Like Trefor says....go to a higher authority and see the Stake President.
At my old Ward I was recently encouraged to wear my kilt to church, all beit from many of the members and from a former Bishop!

[cessna152towser]

I always wear a kilt to Church.
Jesus never wore trousers.
The bishop who said your son and his cousin should not wear their kilts is the lowest form of hypocrite and is not a fit and proper person to lead a congregation.
I would complain about his conduct to the church authorities.
In the spirit of Christian forgiveness perhaps they might educate rather than excommunicate him.

[artificer]

Originally Posted by grizzbass

He even took cameron in his office to give him a "blessing" so cameron could understand why wearing a kilt is bad. He did it without my permission or consulting me. I admit that angered me and we will discuss that.
.

THAT would anger me too... AND I'd show up to discuss it wearing a kilt!

[CDNSushi]

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[Cygnus]

Originally Posted by CDNSushi

Here we go...

Thread locked in 5... 4... 3... 2...

Not so fast, CDNSushi,

Rule 5 says:

"Discussions espousing one particular religious belief or political system over another or comparison of one belief or system to another will not be allowed."

I don't believe anybody has explicitly come out and said that one belief system is better than another - the only thing that differentiates this thread from those about kids being asked not to where a kilt at school is where it took place. Obviously people will be more upset due to the fact that it was a church, but I don't see (much of) anything in this thread that breaks rule 5 - with the exception of a comment or two about religion in general, which I think most members here have ignored.

EDIT: I see CDNSushi was referring to a post/posts that (thankfully) was/were deleted. I apologize for reacting so hastily to your post and want to publicly thank the mods for keeping so on top of things that I didn't even notice a potential issue!

[jrmiller]

"Jeremy, the Spirit may be trying to talk to a visitor during the service. Seeing you in kilt may be enough of a distraction that that message doesn't get through."

Church is a place to learn spiritual stuff instead of the usual reading, writing and arithmetic. Anyone sitting in church that is so distracted by seeing someone in a kilt is receiving a valuable spiritual lesson. Being distracted, annoyed, disturbed, offended by how you view someone else is the "personal" problem of the offended person. They have decided people should look, act and appear a certain way. They are not open to others ideas about how to dress.

When presented with a "kilted person" in the church, they have an opportunity to confront their prejudice and rethink their position. I can't think of a better place to learn such a lesson when the offended one is hopefully a little more open to new ideas outside of their personal "box" (or cage). ;)

As kilt wearers and lovers, we could be thought of as kilted-evangelists! Now there's a concept, we have a much larger purpose!

[wepollard]

Originally Posted by grizzbass

My 12 year old son wore his kilt to our church sunday (Mormon) and was told by the bishop (a congregational leader) he couldn't participate if he wore his kilt. His older cousin was told by his bishop a few weeks ago when he wore his kilt in idaho that he wasn't welcome at church if he wore it again.
Has anyone else of another faith (or I guess the same) gotten such negative responces when they wear a kilt to church. Just wondering.

I wear my kilts to church all the time. It has never been a distraction because when the service starts all conversation stops. The two times I thought it was not proper to attend a service kilted I was asked by the clergy "why aren't you kilted today?"

I suspect the age of the wearer had much to do with refusing your son the right to wear his Kilt. This is the same problem young men have had with wearing kilts to proms and graduations. Adults in authority seem to fear youth who deviate from the norm.