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Kilt vs. Piper hose

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  • 27th September 17, 09:25 AM
    Moses
    Kilt vs. Piper hose
    I was wondering if there was an inherent difference between "regular kilt" hose and those used by a piper?

    I notice on the web-site there is a separation and I am looking for some guidance please.
  • 27th September 17, 09:46 AM
    piperdbh
    Some vendors sell "piper's hose" which are made to be a thicker knit in the foot portion to be more comfortable when marching. "Regular" kilt hose are not necessarily so thick. Wear what you like.
  • 27th September 17, 10:23 AM
    Todd Bradshaw
    Those I own which were sold as piper's hose have a longer, thicker top section with kind of a "popcorn" heavily-textured knit which has more bulk when folded down than my regular hose have. The regular hose may have some sort of decorative weave going on up top, but just don't have as much bulk up there in use. You can just make out the popcorn knit tops on the left photo.

    http://webpages.charter.net/tbradsha...20stuff/u3.jpg
  • 27th September 17, 11:29 AM
    ShaunMaxwell
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    I used to wear piper hose before I switched to the Lewis or Rannoch hose from House of Cheviot. Here's a goofy old photo in which you can see the details of the piper hose pretty clearly:

    Attachment 32006

    Hope that helps!

    SM
  • 27th September 17, 12:51 PM
    The Wizard of BC
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    It is really easy to get confused by some of the names companies have used over the years.

    But - In general - The difference has more to do with the top cuff treatment than anything else.


    The "Wool-Rich" hose by Gaelic Themes are perhaps the most widely sold hose.

    The cuff has a diamond pattern. Some fold this cuff over once and some like myself fold down and then up to give just a slightly thicker look.

    http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/a...id=32008&stc=1

    The "Pipers" hose, also from Gaelic Themes are quite a bit longer and have a basket-weave treatment to the cuff.
    This long cuff is actually knit inside out and is designed to be folded multiple times to give a thick look.

    https://s20.postimg.org/h1q07i15p/Pipers_Lt._Gray.jpg

    The name "Lewis" and "Rannoch" are used by House of Cheviot. Both have a cabled cuff which is knit separably. The "Rannoch" have a wider calf portion. The cuff on these hose fold down one time.

    https://s20.postimg.org/r0aytzal9/Lewis_Maroon.jpg

    Then there is the confusion when some call any hand-knit hose "Piper's". Hand-knit hose with complex cabeling and the "Popcorn" bobbles we almost always knit in an Aran color like the sweaters.

    https://s20.postimg.org/404bhncrh/4c...22eb531677.jpg

    https://s20.postimg.org/sj6cyyh5p/58..._5_F00_300.jpg

    [https://s20.postimg.org/zaws1t659/images_2.jpg

    These are also a basket-weave top that shows the design a little better.

    https://s20.postimg.org/vbzkizhi5/IMG_5690_small2.jpg

    And these have a plain ribbing pattern that is different from the ribbing used in the leg.

    https://s20.postimg.org/yzfbp1pp9/IMG_2871.jpg
  • 27th September 17, 03:23 PM
    Moses
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Todd Bradshaw View Post
    Those I own which were sold as piper's hose have a longer, thicker top section with kind of a "popcorn" heavily-textured knit which has more bulk when folded down than my regular hose have. The regular hose may have some sort of decorative weave going on up top, but just don't have as much bulk up there in use. You can just make out the popcorn knit tops on the left photo.

    http://webpages.charter.net/tbradsha...20stuff/u3.jpg

    Thanks for the picture. I really like the color palette you're sporting there. It's actually what I'd like to have for hose and garter, what color is that?
  • 27th September 17, 04:15 PM
    Todd Bradshaw
    The knit garters came from a seller on eBay who frequently sells them there and they were listed as gold color. The hose are a bit funny. They were originally supposed to be lovat blue, but were kind of a strange shade of it which didn't look very good to me with my other stuff (greener than most lovat blues). I figured I'd dye them navy blue and get something that I would get more use out of. I followed all the directions on the dye carefully, but instead of navy, I ended up with a teal blue/green color. Not what I was expecting, but they have become my favorite hose and they go pretty nicely with all four versions of our tartan, despite the fact that none of them contain any teal yarns.
  • 27th September 17, 04:31 PM
    Moses
    [QUOTE=The Wizard of BC;1346608]It is really easy to get confused by some of the names companies have used over the years.

    But - In general - The difference has more to do with the top cuff treatment than anything else.

    Thank you Steve for the tutorial there with the pictures. I have yet to buy hose so I just don't know exactly what I am looking for but this is a big help.
  • 27th September 17, 04:35 PM
    Moses
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Todd Bradshaw View Post
    The knit garters came from a seller on eBay who frequently sells them there and they were listed as gold color. The hose are a bit funny. They were originally supposed to be lovat blue, but were kind of a strange shade of it which didn't look very good to me with my other stuff (greener than most lovat blues). I figured I'd dye them navy blue and get something that I would get more use out of. I followed all the directions on the dye carefully, but instead of navy, I ended up with a teal blue/green color. Not what I was expecting, but they have become my favorite hose and they go pretty nicely with all four versions of our tartan, despite the fact that none of them contain any teal yarns.

    Wow that sounds like a lucky mistake. They look great. I appreciate knowing that the garter color is gold because I am interested in a bright yellow. I have a Gordon Modern and would love more of that bright yellow.

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