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    Jacket to wear with Navy tartan

    I had been looking for a jacket to wear with my Navy kilt for more formal occasions and my wife suggested 2 reproduction civil war uniform jackets.
    The first is a US Navy monkey jacket


    This is a reproduction cavalry officers jacket

    I was just wonder how well these praticular jackets would look in place of a Prince Charlie or short sport coat with this kilt

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    Jackets

    Quote Originally Posted by madman79764 View Post
    I had been looking for a jacket to wear with my Navy kilt for more formal occasions and my wife suggested 2 reproduction civil war uniform jackets.
    The first is a US Navy monkey jacket


    This is a reproduction cavalry officers jacket

    I was just wonder how well these praticular jackets would look in place of a Prince Charlie or short sport coat with this kilt

    The first one looks remarkably like a Sheriffmuir jacket. I think it would look great with the kilt, the main issue being what to wear with it.

    The Sheriffmuir can be worn with a bow tie, but you may also need a waistcoat or you will be exposing a large expanse of shirt. The waistcoat could be black to match the jacket or tartan.



    The Sheriffmuir is traditionally worn with a lace jabot but I'm not sure how that would work with the military look.



    The second one could also work well. You wouldn't need to worry about what to wear at the neck or a waistcoat for that matter. My personal view is that it may be a bit too similar to a pipe band uniform but that's just my opinion. Whatever works for you.
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    My opinion is that it would lead to confusion. Prince Charlies are typically worn to events where men's attire would call for a tuxedo. So, using that as the go-by, I always picture the suggested jacket worn at a regular tuxedo event, with a pair of tuxedo pants. My opinion is that it would look odd to wear one of the jackets you have mentioned with a pair of tuxedo pants. I think it best to keep separate modern kilts and reenactor gear. I believe it tends to make the kilt look "costumey" rather than distinguished.

    Why not wear a Prince Charlie? As far as I know, the Navy, like the Marine Corps, has not adopted an official kilt uniform. Thus, the Navy Edzell tartan should be worn with civilian highland attire. If you want to make a military connection more obvious wear your miniature medals with the Prince Charlie. These are able to be had now with less cost, although if you are looking to cut a more dashing figure I suggest one of the other highland doublets (Kenmore, Sherrifmuir, etc.)

    If you're bound and determined to wear something other than normal highland dress with this kilt, I'd suggest the Navy's mess dress jacket. It is cut with a high waist and looks a bit like a Prince Charlie from the front. I don't think that wear with civilian clothes is authorized under the uniform regs, but that doesn't seem to phase most people.

    Best of luck!

    David

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidlpope View Post
    ...I'd suggest the Navy's mess dress jacket. It is cut with a high waist and looks a bit like a Prince Charlie from the front.
    I agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by davidlpope View Post
    I don't think that wear with civilian clothes is authorized under the uniform regs, but that doesn't seem to phase most people.
    I have been out of the military for 15 years, but my understanding is the jacket is no longer a uniform item if you change the buttons and remove all insignia.

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    The second jacket is not an officers jacket, it is an "other ranks" (enlisted) pattern shell-jacket with US Cavalry piping from the Civil War period.

    As a former reenactor, I agree with David. It's best not mix reproduction kit with a kilt for a "modern" civilian formal function.

    Regards,

    Todd

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    I think a dress mess style jacket would look nice for your formal occasions.. but mind you.. this is my opinion only..
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    Quote Originally Posted by madman79764 View Post
    This is a reproduction cavalry officers jacket
    I rather like this one, but you would have to be a slim build - Men of Substance would not be able to pull it off. If the collar could be modified to accommodate a jabot, so much the better.

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