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    Whether or not one respects an individual, one might nonetheless respect the office and its furbishments.
    Rev'd Father Bill White: Retired Parish Priest & Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father Bill View Post
    Whether or not one respects an individual, one might nonetheless respect the office and its furbishments.
    And likewise, someone can respect an individual while having ideological difficulties with the office and its furbishments when the same are inherited by the lottery of birth and not earned by merit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathan View Post
    And likewise, someone can respect an individual while having ideological difficulties with the office and its furbishments when the same are inherited by the lottery of birth and not earned by merit.
    Well said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathan View Post
    On the other hand, pipers often wear black cock feathers and soldiers wear hackles. I thought it was just eagle feathers that denoted rank...
    Right, as well as the QOH's wearing a tall, eagle feather. However, they're in uniform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father Bill View Post
    Whether or not one respects an individual, one might nonetheless respect the office and its furbishments.
    This thought process was common throughout the enlisted ranks (in reference to particular SNCO's and Commissioned Officers), whilst I was on active-duty in the U.S. Marine Corps, and rightly so! You may not respect the man, but you should respect the rank/office.

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    What everyone must keep in mind is that the average customer of buy-a-kilt is not going to be an X Marks member. They will be the average guy who has seen the photos on the internet or seen pipe bands or military on parade.

    These are the people who will not know about eagle feathers. They simply see feathers in bonnets and think it is cool or even required for 'the look'.

    These will also be the same people who look at price first. Usually because they will wear their kilt once or twice in the first year and then pull it out only for Halloween after that.

    We here are a very small, and knowledgeable group. I think we sometimes forget that the average kilt sale is to someone who wants it only for dress up. They do not know, or care, about many of the things we talk about here.

    While the kilt business, world wide, is a multi-million dollar market. It is built on the wallets of those who simply do not know what we here do. To most of the customers who place an order on-line it is not the kilt, it is the accessories that they will be willing to spend their money on simply because that is what they see on-line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Ashton View Post
    What everyone must keep in mind is that the average customer of buy-a-kilt is not going to be an X Marks member. They will be the average guy who has seen the photos on the internet or seen pipe bands or military on parade.

    These are the people who will not know about eagle feathers. They simply see feathers in bonnets and think it is cool or even required for 'the look'.

    These will also be the same people who look at price first. Usually because they will wear their kilt once or twice in the first year and then pull it out only for Halloween after that.

    We here are a very small, and knowledgeable group. I think we sometimes forget that the average kilt sale is to someone who wants it only for dress up. They do not know, or care, about many of the things we talk about here.

    While the kilt business, world wide, is a multi-million dollar market. It is built on the wallets of those who simply do not know what we here do. To most of the customers who place an order on-line it is not the kilt, it is the accessories that they will be willing to spend their money on simply because that is what they see on-line.
    Excellent point, Steve.

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    They certainly look like pheasant feathers to me . My cats would destroy that before it even came out of the box !
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    Interesting thread and some very wise comments!

    As Steve mentioned, not everyone has a depth of knowledge to rival some members on this forum and some customers tend to go for what they like the look of as the deciding factor.

    Feathers in a Glengarry also seems to be a popular thing with the Tartan Army. Not being a big football fan, I didn't realise this until a couple of years ago when I saw some photos of them.

    A fine example here!

    EDIT: A short series of photos here shows a recent trip to London for a match at Wembley. Apparently it's traditional to invade Trafalger Square on the day of the match before heading to the ground. Although perhaps not the best advert for Scotland, I believe they are well received worldwide, and although a bit rowdy, are usually a good natured crowd who rarely show animosity to the other side.
    Last edited by Fergus Macdonald; 15th November 13 at 03:48 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fergus Macdonald View Post
    Interesting thread and some very wise comments!

    As Steve mentioned, not everyone has a depth of knowledge to rival some members on this forum and some customers tend to go for what they like the look of as the deciding factor.

    Feathers in a Glengarry also seems to be a popular thing with the Tartan Army. Not being a big football fan, I didn't realise this until a couple of years ago when I saw some photos of them.

    A fine example here!

    EDIT: A short series of photos here shows a recent trip to London for a match at Wembley. Apparently it's traditional to invade Trafalger Square on the day of the match before heading to the ground. Although perhaps not the best advert for Scotland, I believe they are well received worldwide, and although a bit rowdy, are usually a good natured crowd who rarely show animosity to the other side.
    Nice to see a couple of Clan Chiefs enjoying a smoke outside the pub in that first photo!

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