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    Quote Originally Posted by bdkilted View Post
    Flipped through it, basically worthless. It doesn't include the Keith's.
    Basically worthless to you personally, or in the quality of its contents? That's pretty dismissive language!
    Rev'd Father Bill White: Retired Parish Priest & Elementary Headmaster. Lover of God, dogs, most people, joy, tradition, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Canadian Sinclair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father Bill View Post
    Basically worthless to you personally, or in the quality of its contents? That's pretty dismissive language!
    Perhaps bdkilted meant to add a smiley...

    Clan Mackintosh North America / Clan Chattan Association
    Cormack, McIntosh, Gow, Finlayson, Farquar, Waters, Swanson, Ross, Oag, Gilbert, Munro, Turnbough,
    McElroy, McCoy, Mackay, Henderson, Ivester, Castles, Copeland, MacQueen, McCumber, Matheson, Burns,
    Wilson, Campbell, Bartlett, Munro - a few of the ancestral names, mainly from the North-east of Scotland




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    Dismissive is correct, Father Bill. This covers only what; 20 Clans? But, it says it covers the "Clans of Scotland."
    It may be of some minor use to the few clans it covers, but to purport to address the all the clans, and then list only a few?
    That appears to me to be a marketing gimmick, that the author foists on the hapless reader. If your clan is covered, feel free to buy it,
    but don't dismiss my disdain as merely selfishness because my clan isn't included, because there are many clans that have been
    excluded from this pamphlet. I'm merely stating buyer beware, it isn't what it purports to be.
    B.D. Marshall
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdkilted View Post
    Dismissive is correct, Father Bill. This covers only what; 20 Clans? But, it says it covers the "Clans of Scotland."
    It may be of some minor use to the few clans it covers, but to purport to address the all the clans, and then list only a few?
    That appears to me to be a marketing gimmick, that the author foists on the hapless reader. If your clan is covered, feel free to buy it,
    but don't dismiss my disdain as merely selfishness because my clan isn't included, because there are many clans that have been
    excluded from this pamphlet. I'm merely stating buyer beware, it isn't what it purports to be.
    If you actually look at the booklet, it's a historical document, out of copyright. It's free, not being sold or marketed, but put online for reference.

    Added: there are many free, historical books online at the archive. You can learn a lot. They are not all great, but if you take them for the free references they are, then you can get out of them what you put into your research.
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    Clan Mackintosh North America / Clan Chattan Association
    Cormack, McIntosh, Gow, Finlayson, Farquar, Waters, Swanson, Ross, Oag, Gilbert, Munro, Turnbough,
    McElroy, McCoy, Mackay, Henderson, Ivester, Castles, Copeland, MacQueen, McCumber, Matheson, Burns,
    Wilson, Campbell, Bartlett, Munro - a few of the ancestral names, mainly from the North-east of Scotland




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    I did not see the Henderson tartan in the book either, but I know the tartan predates any register so I'm not worried. Nonetheless, I posted as California Highlander suggested.
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    I certainly am not trying to diminish you personally for posting it MacEanruig. Just trying to state clearly that it is not what it purports to be. And, California; I run into people all the time that tell me the Keiths aren't a highland clan. Since your family is from the Northeast, you should know that the Keiths began in Caithness.
    It is true most the the clan holdings eventually were in Aberdeenshire, that is not where we began. Of course I may be a tad sensitive about this subject.....
    B.D. Marshall
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    No... I take your point well; it isn't what the title suggests.
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    Thanks for posting this

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    It's interesting that MacEanruig posted this, as I had been thinking of writing a short article for the Clan Henderson (MacEanruig) Society newsletter on the history of tartan, and the Henderson tartan, in particular. Now forgive me that I forget the history of all of the tartan registers off the top of my head, but the first register to list the Henderson tartan says that it was first described by the Sobieskis and W and AK Johnston. I never found it in the Sobieski's Vestrium Scoticum, and my search for the publisher came across this very website. As mentioned, Henderson is not described in there, either. Note that this book, however, references a larger work by the publisher, The Tartans of the Clans of Scotland. I have not found this online, but would certainly love to see it, and see if it describes Henderson.

    If anybody knows of any addendums to V.S. by the Sobieskis where more tartans are described, I would like to know about it.

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    Thanks for posting. I was interested to read about one of my favourite branches of my own ancestry - the clan Forbes.
    I really like the tartan, and would love to buy a kilt in the Forbes tartan. Looking at this book has rekindled my desire - perhaps, some day!!

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