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    Tartan jackets/coats pre1800

    With the talk of Mr. MacDonald having a run of the Culloden jacket tartan done, it has me thinking a lot on tartan coats of the 18th century. I was hoping we could pool our resources and post all the images we could of such coats, extant and in paintings.

    Culloden Coat"

    Royal Co. of Archers coat

    1780-90

    Recent coat that Mr. MacDonald brought up...

    1788 John Bogle

    1720's -Major James Fraser
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    John Campbell, Lord Glenorchy, ca. 1735
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    Portrait of a Highlander by Richard Waitt

    robert grant of lurg (1678-1777). Painted in 1769, and attributed to Richard Waitt

    John Murray, Earl of Dunmore

    James Moray of Abercairney (1705-1777) , c.1739


    Norman Macleod

    Sir Alexander MacDonald of Sleat

    The MacDonald Boys.

    John "of the Bank" Campbell of Ardmaddie, 1749

    Pryse (or Pryce) Campbell, 18th Thane of Cawdor, 1762

    Sir Stuart Threipland, de jure 3rd Baronet, of Fingask
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    Charles Campbell of Lochlane


    Portrait of Prince Charles Edward Stuart (1720–1788), Eldest Son of Prince James Francis Edward Stuart c.1750 by William Mosman (Scottish c.1700–1771)


    Donald Cameron of Lochiel - the gentle Lochiel


    1748, 7th Earl of Wymess


    Major Alexander Tulloch of Dunbennan


    1729 Thomas Osborne 3rd Viscount Dunblane


    Richard Waitt Andrew Macpherson of Cluny, 1640 - 1666


    Alexander Robertson 15th Clan Chief 1784
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    Quote Originally Posted by IsaacW View Post
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    Donald Cameron of Lochiel - the gentle Lochiel
    Issac, my research shows that this one is c1850 and so doesn't fit the criterion. Details here.
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    Alasdair Ruadh MacDonell (c.1725–1761), 13th Chief of Glengarry


    c1730 - Allegedy a Macnaughton

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    Thank you for the correction and the additions.

    Something that I find interesting, although unrelated to the topic of jackets, is how some of these are tartans still exist, but there are some great examples of the idea that the family/clan tartan of today truly did not exist. I find it interesting that although the Government Sett is rather old and there is the argument that some give that it derived from Campbell tartan (I have never bought into that), all the Campbells shown above have red based tartans. The clan today does not recognize any red tartans as Campbell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IsaacW View Post
    I find it interesting that although the Government Sett is rather old and there is the argument that some give that it derived from Campbell tartan (I have never bought into that), all the Campbells shown above have red based tartans. The clan today does not recognize any red tartans as Campbell.
    I agree with your sentiment regard the early use of the Government tartan by the Campbells. The fact that various recent Campbell chiefs have not recognised any of the red tartans worn by various early Campbell lairds rather goes to emphasis their lack of understanding of the historical use of tartan, and their desire to regiment something that was only ever regulated in the Army.

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    A nice detail from a Hogarth painting. I am not sure how accurate this necessarily is. Hogarth does great detail, but he also embellishes for the sake of satire and definitely wanted to show this man as a "Jacobite."

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    Peter, do you have any idea what the tartan (if it is a tartan still) that the thane of Cawdor is wearing as a plaid in this image...


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    Quote Originally Posted by IsaacW View Post
    @figheadair
    Peter, do you have any idea what the tartan (if it is a tartan still) that the thane of Cawdor is wearing as a plaid in this image...

    Not a tartan that we know today. Structurally, it's like a combination of Watson/Gordon of Esselmont and Murray etc.

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