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    Question regarding making a Kilt when the Waist is larger than Hips

    I have been asked to make a kilt for a man with a 53 inch waist and 49 inch hips. I know what it says in the Art of Kiltmaking regarding this situation. I just wondered if you have any other tips that aren't in the book. Any information will be greatly appreciated.

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    When someone has a waist this big, a kilt looks best if it hangs straight down from the waist while at the same time snugging in a bit in the small of the back (i.e., having tapered pleats), because, even when someone has a belly, the buttocks will stick out in the back farther than the small of the back. TAoK suggests making the waist and hips the same when the waist is bigger than the hips (i.e., for your guy, 53 waist and 53 hips). Unfortunately, this doesn't allow any taper in the pleats and produces a kilt that is likely to look like a tilted cylinder, with the pleats not hanging straight down the side of the kilt (see photo below).





    I've found that the solution is to add to the hip measurement in excess of the waist measurement (i.e., not make them equal). Below, you'll see the same guy in a kilt made with a hip measurement big enough to allow the apron to hang straight down from the waist. Not only does the kilt look better, but the guy looks slimmer!!



    So, how much to add? The simplest way to figure this out is to roll a towel and put it under the belly to kind of fill the space. Be sure it's not sticking out past the belly, and don't wrap it around to the side. Measure around the hips again but around the towel in front as well. Then split the new hip measurement evenly with half the measurement in the apron and half in the pleats. This works well for any guy with a belly - doesn't have to be just for guys whose waists are bigger than their hips.

    For some guys, I've had to add as much as 5-6" to the actual hip measurement to get the apron to hang straight in the front and have the pleats nicely snugged in to the small of the back.
    Last edited by Barb T; 29th June 17 at 10:54 AM.
    Kiltmaker, piper, and geologist (one of the few, the proud, with brains for rocks....
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    This is great, Barb. Many thanks. One more question, if I may. Is there anything different about placing the hip strap/buckle after measuring using this method?

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    If you use one, you should put it on at the hip measurement you made the kilt to. But honestly? I would try to talk a guy out of a hip buckle if he had a large waist. In any event, what you do not want to do is put the buckle on where he could buckle it so that the apron pulled in under his belly (hence why you want to put the buckle on at the over-large hip measurement that you used for the kilt).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barb T View Post
    If you use one, you should put it on at the hip measurement you made the kilt to. But honestly? I would try to talk a guy out of a hip buckle if he had a large waist. In any event, what you do not want to do is put the buckle on where he could buckle it so that the apron pulled in under his belly (hence why you want to put the buckle on at the over-large hip measurement that you used for the kilt).
    Thanks, Barb. I thought it would be like this. I just wanted to be sure. I'd rather ask the question now than ask after I've messed up. Thanks again.

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    Sure! No problem.
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