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    Quote Originally Posted by carlisle401 View Post
    Alan,

    Thank you for your Service. Yes, it is standard to wear your miniature medals for Black tie. Hope you join SAMS, I'm sure you will enjoy it. In my Post we have quite a few Vietnam Vets. We are all Brothers and Sisters.
    I hope too, very soon.
    Thank you,

    Allan Collin MacDonald
    Old Dominion State, Virginia

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    Wearing US Military Medals with Civilian Attire

    This is an International forum and the requirements for wearing military medals and awards will vary in each country, however, since the question addresses the Scottish American Military Association I thought I would pass along this information.

    In response to question during a reunion of one of the Army artillery units I served with, I asked my Congressman for "guidance on the proper wear of military medals and decorations on civilian attire by retired and veteran Service members." The congressman passed the question along to the Pentagon's Office of the Undersecretary of Defense. A response was provided by the Director, Office of Legal Policy, Colonel, U.S. Army. In part the response was:

    In short:

    "Honorably discharged and retired military members may-continue to wear the medals they have earned on appropriate civilian clothing, and at appropriate settings, based on their Service-specific regulations."


    Detailed Service-specific regulations:

    "In general, retired and honorably discharged Service members are permitted to wear their military uniform proudly at parades on National or State holidays, other parades or ceremonies of a patriotic character in which any Active or Reserve U.S. military unit is taking part, as well as military funerals, memorial services, weddings, or inaugurals, in accordance with Department of Defense Instruction (DoDI) 1334.01 "Wearing of the Uniform." While Federal law and overall DoD policy do not state how specific military decorations may be appropriately displayed on civilian clothing; the Military Services have developed additional uniform-regulations . . ."

    Retired and former members of the Army (including Active Duty, Reserve Component, or Army National Guard) may wear all categories of authorized medals on appropriate civilian clothing. "Appropriate civilian clothing" includes apparel designed for veteran and patriotic organizations on Veterans Day, Memorial Day, and Armed Forces Day, as well as at formal ceremonies and social functions of a military nature. Specifically, Army Regulation (AR) 670-1, "Wear and Appearance of Army Uniforms and Insignia," paragraph 30-6, states that honorably-discharged personnel may wear full-size or miniature medals, and should place the medals in approximately the same location and appearance as the Army uniform. Former members of an Army unit also may wear the distinctive unit insignia on their breast pocket or lapel.

    Per Air Force Instruction (AFI) 36-2903, "Dress and Personal Appearance of Air Force Personnel," paragraphs 11.4, retired and honorably discharged Air Force members may wear full-size or miniature medals on civilian suits or equivalent dress on similar appropriate patriotic occasions. Medals should be worn in the approximate location and manner as the official Air Force uniform. Retirees may wear also the retired lapel pin on civilian attire, on the left lapel. If a member is authorized to wear the Command insignia pin, it should be placed on the same side, below the retired lapel pin.

    Similarly, former Naval personnel are permitted to wear miniature medals and breast insignia on civilian evening dress (white tie) or civilian dinner dress (black tie) in the same manner as for dinner dress jackets, in accordance with Navy Uniform Regulations, Chapter 6, paragraph 61002, subparagraph 7. For more casual events, personnel may wear miniature replicas of ribbons made in the form of lapel buttons, or ribbons made in rosette form, on the left lapel of civilian clothes, including honorable discharge and service buttons on left lapel of civilian clothes. Similarly, former members may wear miniature distinguished marksmanship and pistol shot badges as a lapel pin or as part of a tie clasp on civilian clothing.


    The Marine Corps permits all decorations, medals, appropriate ribbon bars, or lapel buttons to be worn on civilian clothes at the individual Marine's discretion, in accordance with Marine Corps Uniform Regulation, MCO P1020.34G, Chapter 5, paragraph 5105. Individuals should ensure that the occasion and the manner of wearing will not reflect discredit on the Service or award. Miniature medals may be worn with civilian formal dress. For non-formal dress, miniature replicas of ribbons made in the form of enameled lapel buttons, or ribbons made in rosette form, may be worn on the left lapel of civilian clothes. Honorable discharge, retirement, and Fleet Marine Corps Reserve (FMCR) buttons may be worn on the left lapel of civilian clothes except civilian evening dress. Buttons manufactured with prong and clutch fasteners may also be worn as tie-tacks.

    Finally, Commandant Instruction (COMDTINST) M1020.6G, Table 3.G.1, permits U.S. Coast Guard personnel to wear miniature medals with civilian formal or evening dress (white tie). Individuals should wear their medals in the same manner as prescribed for the Formal Dress uniform, and with civilian dinner dress (black tie), in the same manner as prescribed for Dinner Dress uniforms. Per the Instruction, miniature ribbon replicas should be worn on the left lapel of other civilian clothes."

    Again this is US specific information, based on the source of the question.
    Last edited by Friday; 11th April 17 at 09:10 PM.

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    Uniform Guidance SAMS

    Thanks for the information on wear! I have been using the army regulation (AR 670-1) for guidance. Which of course does not help at all w/kilt but since I am using my Mess Dress Blue jacket it is useful for that. For anyone that still has one, or can find one, the Mess Dress Blue Jacket (or white) seems to work real well. The problem I saw looking for one was that most folks that have one, will keep it! My regular blues are too long, and the Air Force Blue and White Mess Jackets my Father-in-law left behind are significantly too small for me.

    GrymJack

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    I suppose I am lucky in a way. I follow my Regimental Association dress code. For black tie, Prince Charlie jacket, Hunting Stewart Trews and miniture medals. For Scottish events in Phoenix, I wear one of my kilts. One thing I never do is wear headdress when attending one of these events.

    I'm sure we all do SAMS proud.
    Aye Yours

    Jim

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