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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Richard View Post
    It would be cool to see a better photo!

    Yes the pipers' dress of the pre-1881 Scottish regiments has interesting variety. I'd like to see a book or article devoted to it.
    Original of this photo in A&SH regimental museum in Sterling castle. I made this picture there, but not at the best angle, sorry.

    By the way, in the book "Music of the Scottish Regiments" of David Murray there is a good historical overview of Pipers dress.

    Certainly You have it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Richard View Post
    I do wonder when that illustration of Bonnie Prince Charlie was done. (The style of the painting suggests late 19th/early 20th century.)

    It might have been painted a century after he died. It might be purely imaginary.

    I'd wager it wasn't done from life, if so it would be a very famous and valuable painting indeed!
    To be honest, I'm not sure. I found it on Google Images when researching bonnet dicing. I tried to find it again hoping the website would give a date but I could not find it.

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    The photo referenced above is attributed to The University of Aberdeen and says that it is under copyright.

    That means that it may be in violation of copyright to post here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Ashton View Post
    The photo referenced above is attributed to The University of Aberdeen and says that it is under copyright.

    That means that it may be in violation of copyright to post here.
    Oh, jeeze! I hope not!

    Are you sure this does not come under the Fair Use Act? As I am showing the image for discussion purposes.

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    How we usually deal with this is complaint driven.

    If someone complains we may have to remove it.

    And no, this is not covered under the UK Fair Use Act. This is just a case of finding a photo on the web, copying it, and posting it yourself. How this is usually done to avoid complaints is that credit is given to the photographer, the owner, or the copyright holder.

    The lifting of images is rampant on the web today. Many of our advertisers have had their photos stolen or used without permission. Both Rocky and I have found photos of our products that were lifted from our websites and used on some of the Pakistani sites.

    Heck I recently had this happen in a different way. The photo you see as my avatar is from my website. The photographer gave me permission for my own use but someone lifted that photo from a google image search and posted it on another site. I was "Hottie of the Month". I found out only when people began to contact me because of the photo showing up without credit. They didn't even post a link to my website where they stole the photo. Then they tried to claim fair use as they were not trying to use it for commercial purposes.

    So it is sort of a touchy topic.
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    Gee! Steve's . . . hot?
    Rev'd Father Bill White: Retired Parish Priest & Elementary Headmaster, lover of God, people (most of them!) dogs, joy, humour & clarity. Legion Padre, theologian, teacher, philosopher, linguist, dreamer, traditionalist, bon-vivant, encourager of hearts & souls & a firm believer in dignity, decency, & duty. A proud Sinclair.

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    Don't worry Bill, I gave them your name for next month.
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    Diced Bonnet Ownership

    Father Bill,

    Do you own any diced balmorals/glengarries?

    Just a curious question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrickHughes123 View Post
    Well, if it was just a romantic notion, why would it be that? Because the 19th century romanticism in Scotland specifically was about Highland warriors. A new idea was coming about that Highlanders were brave, romantic warriors rather than clannish, unruly savages.

    Surely the romanticism about dicing would be something like 'The red/white dicing represents a Scottish warrior's love for Scotland' or something like that.

    Maybe I'm overthinking it.
    I think that you probably are overthinking it. In a fairly long civilian diced bonnet(balmoral) wearing life, I have only ever been accosted once by anyone-------a local lady ----- for wearing a diced bonnet. The conversation went something like this.
    " Why are you wearing a government bonnet?"
    " What do yo mean?" Said I.
    "That dicing around your bonnet means a government connection."
    " Well, I do work for the govenment!" Said I, rather cleaverly. ( I actually did at that time)

    It's the only time that I have ever heard any reference to civilian dicing having any meaning in the real world. It's up to you of course , but I wouldn't fuss over it if I were you.
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    It happens over and over in fashion, especially military fashion: a feature of clothing evolves in the natural way of things, and many years later a myth is created to explain it.

    I could mention a number of these in both US and British military uniform, but it would rile ex-servicemen for whom these myths are Gospel.

    It's like the people who venerate their "clan tartan" who get angry when informed that their tartan was originally #125 in the Wilson book, or was invented by an Englishman as part of a hoax, or was originally associated with a different clan, or what have you.
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