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    Quote Originally Posted by Wareyin View Post
    I snipped the dress code for length, but it seems we are in agreement. The kilt does not violate your company's dress code, but you can be fired for wearing it if your boss doesn't like it. At will employment allows your boss to fire you even if you do not violate the dress code. Your large company allows you to wear a kilt, but you did ask for permission ahead of time.
    In the UK that wouldn't be a good enough reason to fire someone at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allan Thomson View Post
    In the UK that wouldn't be a good enough reason to fire someone at all.
    Ah, but the OP is in Wisconsin, USA, an "at will" employment state:

    Under Wisconsin law, unless there is an agreement to the contrary, employment is “at will.” This generally means that either the employer or the employee may generally end the employment relationship without giving either notice or a reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaunMaxwell View Post
    Ah, but the OP is in Wisconsin, USA, an "at will" employment state:

    Under Wisconsin law, unless there is an agreement to the contrary, employment is “at will.” This generally means that either the employer or the employee may generally end the employment relationship without giving either notice or a reason.
    Same in California.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaunMaxwell View Post
    Ah, but the OP is in Wisconsin, USA, an "at will" employment state:

    Under Wisconsin law, unless there is an agreement to the contrary, employment is “at will.” This generally means that either the employer or the employee may generally end the employment relationship without giving either notice or a reason.
    And to roll it all the way back around, despite the negative reactions and advise to not wear the kilt given in this thread, the OP has stated that his boss actually encouraged him to wear the kilt.
    I said it in another thread, this forum that is ostensibly a community of kilt enthusiasts is actually where I find the majority of folks telling people not the wear the kilt.

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    Where that's not the law, they'll find another reason if they want to be rid of you.
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    Indiana also.

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    Sadly, too often, it's the person/people doing the firing, that should be fired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allan Thomson View Post
    In the UK that wouldn't be a good enough reason to fire someone at all.
    But it’s easy enough to find a pretext for firing someone. Say you’re boss doesn’t like your kilt but can’t fire you because of discrimination or whatever. All he has to do is wait until you come in a minute late or your performance drops a little bit.

    Kilt equality in the workplace just doesn’t seem like a hill worth dying on to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wareyin View Post
    And to roll it all the way back around, despite the negative reactions and advise to not wear the kilt given in this thread, the OP has stated that his boss actually encouraged him to wear the kilt.
    I said it in another thread, this forum that is ostensibly a community of kilt enthusiasts is actually where I find the majority of folks telling people not the wear the kilt.
    I don’t recall addressing wearing of the kilt in my comment, only the rights of the employer in the jurisdiction being discussed.

    I’m all for the wearing of kilts in appropriate settings and at appropriate times, which may or may not include places of business, depending on dress codes, and any number of other factors. If the OP has the permission of management and the desire to do so, then he can do as he sees fit.

    I think what “the majority of folks” are trying to point out is that just because something is allowed, it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s prudent.
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    I work for a semi government agency and while wearing a kilt is not proscribed my job as a maintenance stock clerk makes it ill advised. That said I do try to wear my kilt in at least a couple of times a year such as Christmas or other holiday when I don't think I'll be too busy. Depending on the weather, I plan to wear it on Veteran's Day next Sunday. Hopefully it won't be raining because nothing is quite like the aroma of wet wool.

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